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Old 10-24-2012 | 06:57 PM
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Anyone have video of the Green Hornet taking out the Muscle Milk car during the race?
If my memory is correct, very similar circumstances.
Old 10-24-2012 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfbum
Anyone have video of the Green Hornet taking out the Muscle Milk car during the race?
If my memory is correct, very similar circumstances.
this is the only one I can find.

if anyone has a link to more 2012 PLM footage, please let me know!

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Originally Posted by CAM14
I seems clear that the Green car driver was focused on what was in front of him and no idea a quicker car was coming up from behind. Not sure who the driver of the Green car is but hope I never race on the same track and time as him.
If he was focused on what was in front of him, he should have seen the waving blue flags.

Word is that Takuma Sato was the driver .....
Old 10-25-2012 | 07:30 AM
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I guess we can now all empathize with the stewards in various series... Not as easy as we think to assign pure responsibility in a car to car wheel
To wheel contact scenario even with video from several viewpoints.
Looks like a racing incident to me, p car got a bit loose on curbing, snaps a bit, he tries to correct. Right rear is laying down a stripe before contact so he's got a bit of cleanup and in the meantime N car is making a pass. So overtaking car has respOnsibilty to make a clean pass and car being overtaken has to give racing room....in pca only of course...

So if you are the pca steward, who gets the 13....?

Probably best cut the video prior to shooting the finger in pca also before you share with the stewards...
Old 10-25-2012 | 07:49 AM
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Problem is this car has a rep in the paddock according to what the announcers said. Once in isolation maybe, multiple times during a season - different story.
Old 10-25-2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean F
Problem is this car has a rep in the paddock according to what the announcers said. Once in isolation maybe, multiple times during a season - different story.
+1. Grojean didn't get a one race suspension because of one isolated incident. An accumulation of incidents gets you a rep and more eyes on you.
Old 10-25-2012 | 04:11 PM
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Incidentally, to back up a few pages, Scott Liebler's unfortunate fatality was the circuit's first, in over 20 years of operation at the time.
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Originally Posted by Glen
I guess we can now all empathize with the stewards in various series... Not as easy as we think to assign pure responsibility in a car to car wheel
To wheel contact scenario even with video from several viewpoints.
Looks like a racing incident to me, p car got a bit loose on curbing, snaps a bit, he tries to correct. Right rear is laying down a stripe before contact so he's got a bit of cleanup and in the meantime N car is making a pass. So overtaking car has respOnsibilty to make a clean pass and car being overtaken has to give racing room....in pca only of course...

So if you are the pca steward, who gets the 13....?

Probably best cut the video prior to shooting the finger in pca also before you share with the stewards...
PCA or not, it was an ill advised pass on the part of the DeltaWing, particularly given that this was practice.
Old 10-25-2012 | 05:51 PM
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Gunnar is very lucky the roll hoop did not dig into the dirt!! his helmet was so close to the ground.

Anybody here remember the Jeff Clinton incident @ Homestead??
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Originally Posted by Derek@TRG
Anybody here remember the Jeff Clinton incident @ Homestead??
yes, sadly RIP Jeff.

he was a St. Louis guy, I watched him race in SCCA regionally (GT2 or GT3, IIRC?) on his way up the ladder. good driver, cool guy.
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Was Clinton the sports racer or open cockpit prototype incident that flipped?
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Originally Posted by gums
Was Clinton the sports racer or open cockpit prototype incident that flipped?
he was racing an open cockpit Lola in the early days of Grand Am (before the DP)

as I recall the accident, he flipped in a gravel trap going from the front straight to infield at Homestead and the roll hoop failed.
Old 10-26-2012 | 05:24 PM
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Having just looked through the rulebook, 80mm is the required clearance to a line connecting the roll hoop to the body. 80mm is not much.
Old 11-06-2012 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lordpantsington


This is now my desktop. (look at the Porsche driver)
what an a$$.
he causes a shunt and then flips off the shuntee?

(his right arm DOEs seem unnaturally long...)

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That's a bird (or "shuntee") if I've ever seen one.
Vent hose my ***.


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