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10-11-2012, 03:14 PM
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I don't think there is much you can do in a street car.
When I got to the intermediate run group I started shopping for a race car with a full cage and all the safety equipment. They are just plain safer when you are pushing closer to the limit on a more regular basis. Airbags help a bit but street cars are just not designed to protect you from the kinds of crashes that can happen on track.
When I got to the intermediate run group I started shopping for a race car with a full cage and all the safety equipment. They are just plain safer when you are pushing closer to the limit on a more regular basis. Airbags help a bit but street cars are just not designed to protect you from the kinds of crashes that can happen on track.
10-11-2012, 03:15 PM
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10-11-2012, 03:20 PM
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what do you mean by 'most right seats'? could you pls tell more?
i saw one pretty close but never tried it on. does it require to replace backrest of the seat with a special insert?
as of dedicated race car comment - it is a best way to go, but, it requires much more than just a car. for now i have to use what i got and it is plenty enough.
i saw one pretty close but never tried it on. does it require to replace backrest of the seat with a special insert?
as of dedicated race car comment - it is a best way to go, but, it requires much more than just a car. for now i have to use what i got and it is plenty enough.
10-11-2012, 03:27 PM
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10-11-2012, 04:05 PM
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Was he at 5/10 just showing you the line?
Also, if you haven't heard, wearing a HANS device in a car with no roll over protection, i.e. roll bar or cage, can be hazardous to your health. The HANS and presumably 5 or 6 pt. harness is meant to keep you up right. If you're involved in a roll over and the roof collapses on you, that's not where you want our head and neck to be. You may actually be saver in a 3 pt belt without the HANS where your upper torso can flex down and to the sides.
The aforementioned refers to YOU being an instructor in the right seat. The older I get the more I think it's crazy getting into a high powered car with someone I've never met before and going around a track at triple digits. You can have the best safety equipment in the world, the fact of the matter is that instruction of others in the same car is "CRAZY"!!!!
Was he at 5/10 just showing you the line?
Also, if you haven't heard, wearing a HANS device in a car with no roll over protection, i.e. roll bar or cage, can be hazardous to your health. The HANS and presumably 5 or 6 pt. harness is meant to keep you up right. If you're involved in a roll over and the roof collapses on you, that's not where you want our head and neck to be. You may actually be saver in a 3 pt belt without the HANS where your upper torso can flex down and to the sides.
The aforementioned refers to YOU being an instructor in the right seat. The older I get the more I think it's crazy getting into a high powered car with someone I've never met before and going around a track at triple digits. You can have the best safety equipment in the world, the fact of the matter is that instruction of others in the same car is "CRAZY"!!!!
10-11-2012, 04:47 PM
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Also, if you haven't heard, wearing a HANS device in a car with no roll over protection, i.e. roll bar or cage, can be hazardous to your health.
The older I get the more I think it's crazy getting into a high powered car with someone I've never met before and going around a track at triple digits. You can have the best safety equipment in the world, the fact of the matter is that instruction of others in the same car is "CRAZY"!!!!
Also, if you haven't heard, wearing a HANS device in a car with no roll over protection, i.e. roll bar or cage, can be hazardous to your health.
The older I get the more I think it's crazy getting into a high powered car with someone I've never met before and going around a track at triple digits. You can have the best safety equipment in the world, the fact of the matter is that instruction of others in the same car is "CRAZY"!!!!
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10-11-2012, 07:46 PM
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He spent more time showing off drifting than actually droving. It was a waste of time from a good line point of view. Does not matter though - a crash and fire at 75 mph hurts as much as a crash and fire at 150 mph without the right safety gear.
Thanks for the tip. 
Spec Miata. Full cage. Fixed-back seats. 5-point harnesses (mentioned in my first post).
Umm...why exactly am I forced to defend myself
1. I was not instructing
2. I was not in a high-powered car (what part of Miata is high powered?)
3. The safety equipment in his car was adequate or I would not have gotten in.
4. While his driving was not instructive, it also was not dangerous.
5. He was an instructor at this track with thousands of laps hand-picked by the event organizer to show me the line not just some random green student who thinks he is the next Mario in a highly modded turbo
My point was about an attitude towards personal safety gear like suits and HANS -- did you actually read my first post?
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Spec Miata. Full cage. Fixed-back seats. 5-point harnesses (mentioned in my first post).
Umm...why exactly am I forced to defend myself
1. I was not instructing
2. I was not in a high-powered car (what part of Miata is high powered?)
3. The safety equipment in his car was adequate or I would not have gotten in.
4. While his driving was not instructive, it also was not dangerous.
5. He was an instructor at this track with thousands of laps hand-picked by the event organizer to show me the line not just some random green student who thinks he is the next Mario in a highly modded turbo
My point was about an attitude towards personal safety gear like suits and HANS -- did you actually read my first post?
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10-11-2012, 07:58 PM
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As I mentioned in the other thread, I've become pretty vigilant about wearing my safety stuff and it paid off at the Glen. I made it through extremely well while the car did not.
10-11-2012, 08:10 PM
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i do wear my hans too all the time now, it is indeed an odd sport to get messed up by somebody else`s spill, but what can we do? it is what it is i guess.
10-11-2012, 08:25 PM
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He spent more time showing off drifting than actually droving. It was a waste of time from a good line point of view. Does not matter though - a crash and fire at 75 mph hurts as much as a crash and fire at 150 mph without the right safety gear.
Thanks for the tip.
Spec Miata. Full cage. Fixed-back seats. 5-point harnesses (mentioned in my first post).
Umm...why exactly am I forced to defend myself
1. I was not instructing
2. I was not in a high-powered car (what part of Miata is high powered?)
3. The safety equipment in his car was adequate or I would not have gotten in.
4. While his driving was not instructive, it also was not dangerous.
5. He was an instructor at this track with thousands of laps hand-picked by the event organizer to show me the line not just some random green student who thinks he is the next Mario in a highly modded turbo
My point was about an attitude towards personal safety gear like suits and HANS -- did you actually read my first post?
Marc
Thanks for the tip.
Spec Miata. Full cage. Fixed-back seats. 5-point harnesses (mentioned in my first post).
Umm...why exactly am I forced to defend myself
1. I was not instructing
2. I was not in a high-powered car (what part of Miata is high powered?)
3. The safety equipment in his car was adequate or I would not have gotten in.
4. While his driving was not instructive, it also was not dangerous.
5. He was an instructor at this track with thousands of laps hand-picked by the event organizer to show me the line not just some random green student who thinks he is the next Mario in a highly modded turbo
My point was about an attitude towards personal safety gear like suits and HANS -- did you actually read my first post?
Marc
10-11-2012, 09:24 PM
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Ha! Decaf is for wimps. 
Sorry, the message addressed to me by name that included a reply to one of my previous posts with YOU in all capitals threw me off and made me think that perhaps some of your comments were directed at me. Apparently my bad.
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10-11-2012, 09:26 PM
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