"Sonoma Sprints" Spec Miata race vid
07-14-2012, 08:21 PM
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I could probably come up with the same thought right after the race but upon review realize I came in second place after a good race. The silver car just bounced off the yellow car, he reacted to that contact and ended up where he did. You were in a weaker position with or without contact. You may have been able to get closer had the other cars not been there, ether way he had the inside and you were going to haver to take the long way home. I saw no rules infraction for an SCCA or NASA race.
The flaggers definitely had some issues. I sure am glad though, that they volunteer their time for me to have so much fun at the track.
Good driving/racing get him next time.
The flaggers definitely had some issues. I sure am glad though, that they volunteer their time for me to have so much fun at the track.
Good driving/racing get him next time.
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07-14-2012, 09:43 PM
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07-15-2012, 05:24 PM
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Impossible situation. These minor incidents just happen. I can agree that he was trying to keep his position and lead, especially on the last turn of the last lap, in traffic! Meanwhile, it was great driving by both of you and I have great repect for hard-core Miata drivers.
07-15-2012, 10:39 PM
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07-16-2012, 12:35 AM
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For a different perspective, same weekend but different group.
He's not running a later gen Stohr, nor a built motor, so he's ~1:34 v. their ~1:27. Compare those times to the 5.0L Can Am era (Crawford/J. Villenueve/Rahal/Sullivan) that was ~1:25 on what's basically the same track.
You'll also get a kick out of overtaking some backmarkers on a couple of restarts.
He's not running a later gen Stohr, nor a built motor, so he's ~1:34 v. their ~1:27. Compare those times to the 5.0L Can Am era (Crawford/J. Villenueve/Rahal/Sullivan) that was ~1:25 on what's basically the same track.
You'll also get a kick out of overtaking some backmarkers on a couple of restarts.
07-16-2012, 11:07 AM
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For a different perspective, same weekend but different group.
He's not running a later gen Stohr, nor a built motor, so he's ~1:34 v. their ~1:27. Compare those times to the 5.0L Can Am era (Crawford/J. Villenueve/Rahal/Sullivan) that was ~1:25 on what's basically the same track.
You'll also get a kick out of overtaking some backmarkers on a couple of restarts.
http://vimeo.com/45772442
He's not running a later gen Stohr, nor a built motor, so he's ~1:34 v. their ~1:27. Compare those times to the 5.0L Can Am era (Crawford/J. Villenueve/Rahal/Sullivan) that was ~1:25 on what's basically the same track.
You'll also get a kick out of overtaking some backmarkers on a couple of restarts.
http://vimeo.com/45772442
PS: Was Carlos Ragado's DSM out there?
07-16-2012, 12:47 PM
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Doc - plenty to say on this topic, but even after an entire weekend of racing them side by side, opinions still vary. I was surprised to be able to compete with the Hoosier shod national cars on my Toyos. We all thought that this would be the one track where the Hoosiers would really dominate the Toyos. But all of the fastest national SM's were 1.6's, and we don't know if a 1.8 on Hoosiers would've been a potent combination.
It seemed that any advantage the Hoosiers had decreased toward the end of a hot race, while the Toyos remained a little more consistent. Because of the warm weather (80's) tire management was an important factor, which I was focused on in the race. Not sure how the others were treating their tires.
Qualifying however was another story, with a clear advantage to the Hoosiers. If there's one thing we might be able to agree on, it's that new or one cycle Hoosiers can do one lap that is 0.5 - 1.0 second faster than either tire can do at any other time.
It seemed that any advantage the Hoosiers had decreased toward the end of a hot race, while the Toyos remained a little more consistent. Because of the warm weather (80's) tire management was an important factor, which I was focused on in the race. Not sure how the others were treating their tires.
Qualifying however was another story, with a clear advantage to the Hoosiers. If there's one thing we might be able to agree on, it's that new or one cycle Hoosiers can do one lap that is 0.5 - 1.0 second faster than either tire can do at any other time.
07-16-2012, 02:06 PM
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Don't know about Carlos' car, either. Sad to think the first time I ran into him again after giving him a ride in the Radical circa 2004 was just after he bought a Stohr and had it out to practice at a DE. Then I found out he passed away about two weeks later.
07-16-2012, 02:26 PM
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Doc - plenty to say on this topic, but even after an entire weekend of racing them side by side, opinions still vary. I was surprised to be able to compete with the Hoosier shod national cars on my Toyos. We all thought that this would be the one track where the Hoosiers would really dominate the Toyos. But all of the fastest national SM's were 1.6's, and we don't know if a 1.8 on Hoosiers would've been a potent combination.
It seemed that any advantage the Hoosiers had decreased toward the end of a hot race, while the Toyos remained a little more consistent. Because of the warm weather (80's) tire management was an important factor, which I was focused on in the race. Not sure how the others were treating their tires.
Qualifying however was another story, with a clear advantage to the Hoosiers. If there's one thing we might be able to agree on, it's that new or one cycle Hoosiers can do one lap that is 0.5 - 1.0 second faster than either tire can do at any other time.
It seemed that any advantage the Hoosiers had decreased toward the end of a hot race, while the Toyos remained a little more consistent. Because of the warm weather (80's) tire management was an important factor, which I was focused on in the race. Not sure how the others were treating their tires.
Qualifying however was another story, with a clear advantage to the Hoosiers. If there's one thing we might be able to agree on, it's that new or one cycle Hoosiers can do one lap that is 0.5 - 1.0 second faster than either tire can do at any other time.
07-16-2012, 03:21 PM
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I've driven Miatas and MX5 Cups at the last three 25 Hours, and none on Toyos. To be honest, I think we've always just assumed that the Hoosiers are way faster. I'm still thinking that the Hankook would be better than the Toyo or Hoosier, but who knows? You're correct to point out that in the cold temps Hoosiers might still be much better than Toyos. But it's not as cut & dry as we used to think.
07-16-2012, 04:53 PM
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RA1 vs. Hoosier. My opinion:
RA1 - Last longer and more steady wear..lighter than hoohoos (shaved RA1's)..faster in the straights.
Hoosier - Shorter life..more grip in the turns..slower on the straights due to weight/stickier.
Overall, Hoosiers are faster, usually by .5 to a full second. New track records this year on Hoosiers almost everywhere that I've been. Running RA1's and then running Hoosiers right after there is a noticeable difference in straight speeds and cornering. You must be even smoother running RA1's and can get away with more sloppiness running hoohoos.
RA1 - Last longer and more steady wear..lighter than hoohoos (shaved RA1's)..faster in the straights.
Hoosier - Shorter life..more grip in the turns..slower on the straights due to weight/stickier.
Overall, Hoosiers are faster, usually by .5 to a full second. New track records this year on Hoosiers almost everywhere that I've been. Running RA1's and then running Hoosiers right after there is a noticeable difference in straight speeds and cornering. You must be even smoother running RA1's and can get away with more sloppiness running hoohoos.
