largest PCA race class?
#46
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The only problem is that I no longer have either boxes, or the car.
#48
Three Wheelin'
E is the former F class, right? If so, the "F troop" used to dominate the East Coast in the good old days. Scotto was doing 1.24s around Summit in a g-50 car. Scotto might chime in, but these guys were all running 3.2 G-50 cars I believe. Mark Forester, Cal, Henk, Bob Scotto, Jeff Burger.... those guys ran hard, clean and put on a show as well as I can ever remember. Heck, Forester ran a targa if I remember right and would tape all the seams of his hood to get the extra aero! I'd watch in envy wishing that my Pop could wheel like that.
Anyone remember Savenor and Oliver Z battling in their C2s in the old "E" class?
Moral of the story... it can be done in the 3.2s.... in my opinion. And legally.
Anyone remember Savenor and Oliver Z battling in their C2s in the old "E" class?
Moral of the story... it can be done in the 3.2s.... in my opinion. And legally.
#49
Three Wheelin'
I'd pay money to see Mark Hupfer (sp?), Mike Ellis, Jim Buckley, Fred C, Savenor, Scotto, Burger, and Poetl (in a 944S2 for good measure) go at it at the Glen in "E" cars.
#50
for the 3.0 tuning is thru fuel...with a US spec motor converted over i believe frank does not have the correct fuel pressure going in but with the correct part he should see some more power...i could be wrong but thats more correct parts vs tuning.
only tuning you can do is with exhausts as far as i know...i got some extra HP taking off the mufflers i had on it... ive heard buckley has put down some good numbers with the 3.0 headers on a 3.2 etc
but i just drive the thing so there very well could be other legal ways to do so. i just have no idea if or what they are....
besides the nitrous bottle i mean fire extinguisher.
only tuning you can do is with exhausts as far as i know...i got some extra HP taking off the mufflers i had on it... ive heard buckley has put down some good numbers with the 3.0 headers on a 3.2 etc
but i just drive the thing so there very well could be other legal ways to do so. i just have no idea if or what they are....
besides the nitrous bottle i mean fire extinguisher.
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#52
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E is the former F class, right? If so, the "F troop" used to dominate the East Coast in the good old days. Scotto was doing 1.24s around Summit in a g-50 car. Scotto might chime in, but these guys were all running 3.2 G-50 cars I believe.
Moral of the story... it can be done in the 3.2s.... in my opinion. And legally.
Moral of the story... it can be done in the 3.2s.... in my opinion. And legally.
Were those guys getting it done against MH in his Euro SC?
#53
Three Wheelin'
Good point Jack, I'm not sure. Somewhere in there PCA added weight to all classes to account for being weighed 'with driver' I believe as well?
Agreed, I put MH up against anyone. Would be a great race to watch.
Agreed, I put MH up against anyone. Would be a great race to watch.
#54
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If PCA really wants to make it fair they should limit the timing and rev limit on the SCs. Both can easily be checked in seconds.
#55
Does anyone know what is the factory rev limit on a Euro SC? My '83 US owners manual says 6500 + or -200 and my US spec rev limiter kicks in at the high end of that range. I corresponded with one of the scruts on this issue before the season and he said they would be enforcing factory rev limits in stock and prepared classes this year but I did not see any evidence of that at Sebring.
#56
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Does anyone know what is the factory rev limit on a Euro SC? My '83 US owners manual says 6500 + or -200 and my US spec rev limiter kicks in at the high end of that range. I corresponded with one of the scruts on this issue before the season and he said they would be enforcing factory rev limits in stock and prepared classes this year but I did not see any evidence of that at Sebring.
#57
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If the Euro cars came from the factory with a 6800 RPM Rev limiter, by PCA rules you need to use that rev limiter.
Anyway, those engines don't make torque above 7K, even my 2.7RS goes flat up there. So unless it saves a shift (Carolinas M P autocross section pre-update) it never paid to exceed the stock rev limiter.
Anyway, those engines don't make torque above 7K, even my 2.7RS goes flat up there. So unless it saves a shift (Carolinas M P autocross section pre-update) it never paid to exceed the stock rev limiter.
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