Safety...gone too far?
11-29-2011, 01:43 PM
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Do you wear one at every DE? I agree safety is necessary, but it's often 90+ degrees at our DE's and street cars usually don't have a cool shirt system. Of course, if we ever encountered a fire, everyone would wished they had a suit on. Overall, I'm looking at increasing the safety of the sport, even if just a little, with a product that most will wear and enjoy.
If you're out there just tooling around in your C2S or whatever odds are probably low that you'll have to worry but that's not me.
Unless you're unconcious, in which case you're waiting on track support to get to you and pull you free....
11-29-2011, 01:49 PM
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Here is an idea for you to expand your market too. Most corner workers wear some kind white shirt and painter paints. They typically do not have any kind of real personal safety equipment. A lightweight, long sleeve white FR shirt with a chest pocket which is at the lower end price scale would/should be well received in the world of corner workers. At the club race level, these guys/gales are neither buying Carbon-X nor NOMEX type of personal protection but I think there is a real need for something. Maybe you can fill that need?
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11-29-2011, 01:55 PM
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11-29-2011, 04:13 PM
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11-29-2011, 05:00 PM
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What's wrong with the current solution of long sleeves shirts (which is normally worn under a nomex suit)? Too expensive? Just like helmets, I'm willing to pay more for increased safety.
11-29-2011, 05:26 PM
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A regular 100% cotton shirt doesn't offer much protection. In fact, some research I've seen says that it can actually catch fire and burn...not a good thing when it's on your body. I'm also going to test these theories myself before pursuing. Regular cotton under the suit should be ok I guess, presuming fire doesn't go through the suit. Overall, the more protection the better I would think. Thoughts?
11-29-2011, 05:43 PM
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A regular 100% cotton shirt doesn't offer much protection. In fact, some research I've seen says that it can actually catch fire and burn...not a good thing when it's on your body. I'm also going to test these theories myself before pursuing. Regular cotton under the suit should be ok I guess, presuming fire doesn't go through the suit. Overall, the more protection the better I would think. Thoughts?
Disclosure: I don't DE but I race. I don't generally prescribe to half-way in/half-way out i.e. using street cars for the track, compromising on safety, etc. Therefore, I'm not your target market. But I do appreciate a good product marketing exercise.
11-29-2011, 05:47 PM
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Sorry, I meant: what is wrong with the current solution of fire retardant long sleeve shirts?
Disclosure: I don't DE but I race. I don't generally prescribe to half-way in/half-way out i.e. using street cars for the track, compromising on safety, etc. Therefore, I'm not your target market. But I do appreciate a good product marketing exercise.
Disclosure: I don't DE but I race. I don't generally prescribe to half-way in/half-way out i.e. using street cars for the track, compromising on safety, etc. Therefore, I'm not your target market. But I do appreciate a good product marketing exercise.
Curious...what do you use under your fire suit?
11-29-2011, 09:45 PM
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I have a set of FR cotton coveralls that I used during a few DEs. I could wear shorts and a t-shirt between sessions and pull on the janitor uniform for the track sessions. It was convenient and relatively cheap. So, yeah, I like the idea.
I looked on OG Racing and noticed that they sell a G-Force short sleeve shirt that is "flame retardant" but does not claim to be nomex. Interesting. A little text at the bottom of the page (which pops up whenever you look at underwear) says, Nomex Underwear should fit snugly underneath a driving suit."
http://www.ogracing.com/g-force-flam...ant-undershirt
I looked on OG Racing and noticed that they sell a G-Force short sleeve shirt that is "flame retardant" but does not claim to be nomex. Interesting. A little text at the bottom of the page (which pops up whenever you look at underwear) says, Nomex Underwear should fit snugly underneath a driving suit."
http://www.ogracing.com/g-force-flam...ant-undershirt
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11-30-2011, 12:21 AM
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11-30-2011, 12:38 PM
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I have a set of FR cotton coveralls that I used during a few DEs. I could wear shorts and a t-shirt between sessions and pull on the janitor uniform for the track sessions. It was convenient and relatively cheap. So, yeah, I like the idea.
I looked on OG Racing and noticed that they sell a G-Force short sleeve shirt that is "flame retardant" but does not claim to be nomex. Interesting. A little text at the bottom of the page (which pops up whenever you look at underwear) says, Nomex Underwear should fit snugly underneath a driving suit."
http://www.ogracing.com/g-force-flam...ant-undershirt
I looked on OG Racing and noticed that they sell a G-Force short sleeve shirt that is "flame retardant" but does not claim to be nomex. Interesting. A little text at the bottom of the page (which pops up whenever you look at underwear) says, Nomex Underwear should fit snugly underneath a driving suit."
http://www.ogracing.com/g-force-flam...ant-undershirt
11-30-2011, 11:41 PM
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Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but what about some kind of FR pants that look like normal pants as well? Not sure if anything like this already exists, but I imagine there is a demographic out there that may be self-conscious about getting a full race suit to lap their local track in the street car they drove to the track or may not see the hassle of a one-piece suit as worth the marginal benefit at a DE. I think you might be able to find buyers if you sold clothing that offers the fire protection of a full Sparco suit without the fashion statement at a price point comparable to typical department store clothes.
11-30-2011, 11:50 PM
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If you want some fire protection and don't mind looking like a cop or janitor, check out some public safety clothing. Most everything is navy blue or tan. Topps Safety is one brand I can think of off the top of my head. http://www.toppssafetyapparel.com/nmx-hdnsnapfrnt.html
12-01-2011, 11:47 AM
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