PCA Specbox History? WTF...
11-23-2011, 09:23 PM
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In Texas, we see 20+ car fields in SPB on a regular basis. If engines and transmissions were failing at a high rate, it would be obvious. I don't see it happening.
11-23-2011, 09:30 PM
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Not to derail the discussion, but where is the best location for online discussions about specBox in general? PCA is DOA as far as I can tell, NASA site is quite...it would be nice to have one place to have this conversation across orgs...
11-23-2011, 09:45 PM
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Since most of the more "active" discussions about the series seem to happen on this site I think it would be great if Rennlist would give us our own forum right here.
Tim
Since most of the more "active" discussions about the series seem to happen on this site I think it would be great if Rennlist would give us our own forum right here.
Tim
11-23-2011, 10:44 PM
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I'll race anything, I vote for "Spec Golf Cart"
We all show up at a track like Daytona, or Mid Ohio where they have a golf cart rental company, seal the lids as they come out of the rental company so there is no playing with restrictors, etc, and then we race around the track !
Just think of the benefits, low cost, instead of 3 wide thru turn one we can probably go 6 wide ! Drafting ? They already come with those rubber bumpers, we won't even scratch the paint !
We all show up at a track like Daytona, or Mid Ohio where they have a golf cart rental company, seal the lids as they come out of the rental company so there is no playing with restrictors, etc, and then we race around the track !
Just think of the benefits, low cost, instead of 3 wide thru turn one we can probably go 6 wide ! Drafting ? They already come with those rubber bumpers, we won't even scratch the paint !
True, but during this season, we've had instances where 5 cars in an event went down with gearbox or shifter problems. I think it is obviously a weak link on the car.
I think my car could definitely be considered an outlier when you look at the numbers though. My specBox has proved itself to be the quickest car on the west coast coast this year, and I don't think any would argue against that. It certainly gets driven to limit and then some. If anyone is going to find the weak parts, I will, and I did.
It's not the fastest car out here because of horsepower. It's driven hard, shifted quick, has inside wheels spinning, and spends a lot of time curb surfing.
I think my car could definitely be considered an outlier when you look at the numbers though. My specBox has proved itself to be the quickest car on the west coast coast this year, and I don't think any would argue against that. It certainly gets driven to limit and then some. If anyone is going to find the weak parts, I will, and I did.
It's not the fastest car out here because of horsepower. It's driven hard, shifted quick, has inside wheels spinning, and spends a lot of time curb surfing.
Yup, even on the shorter tracks like MSR and Eagles Canyon...
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11-24-2011, 12:28 AM
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True, but during this season, we've had instances where 5 cars in an event went down with gearbox or shifter problems. I think it is obviously a weak link on the car.
I think my car could definitely be considered an outlier when you look at the numbers though. My specBox has proved itself to be the quickest car on the west coast coast this year, and I don't think any would argue against that. It certainly gets driven to limit and then some. If anyone is going to find the weak parts, I will, and I did.
It's not the fastest car out here because of horsepower. It's driven hard, shifted quick, has inside wheels spinning, and spends a lot of time curb surfing.
A season for us on the west coast is a bit longer as well. We run from January to December and I have 38+ track days on the car this year. The short track events are actually much harder on the car than the large high speed tracks.
I think my car could definitely be considered an outlier when you look at the numbers though. My specBox has proved itself to be the quickest car on the west coast coast this year, and I don't think any would argue against that. It certainly gets driven to limit and then some. If anyone is going to find the weak parts, I will, and I did.
It's not the fastest car out here because of horsepower. It's driven hard, shifted quick, has inside wheels spinning, and spends a lot of time curb surfing.
A season for us on the west coast is a bit longer as well. We run from January to December and I have 38+ track days on the car this year. The short track events are actually much harder on the car than the large high speed tracks.
potter lost a box or maybe two.
i lost one box in 2009 when i raced BSR.
11-24-2011, 12:30 AM
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Wow.. a tranny every 8 track days... that's about the frequency I change oil in my 993. My engine and tranny are 15 years old.... Over three hard seasons, I've missed exactly two DE run sessions (shift fork) and only one single race DNF (half shaft) due to mechanical failures in my 993.
I've been observing with a lot of curiosity and interest about this spec boxster idea, but with engines and trannies considered to be consumable items, and guys buying sticker tires for every race weekend, I'm just not convinced yet that this class makes sense.
I've been observing with a lot of curiosity and interest about this spec boxster idea, but with engines and trannies considered to be consumable items, and guys buying sticker tires for every race weekend, I'm just not convinced yet that this class makes sense.
but they are less than $3000 used, that's parts, labor, shipping and tax all in.
11-24-2011, 01:11 AM
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Find someone to rent us 20 or so Suburbans and you know I am in. I'll drive anything !
BTW - Globes yellow hornet is much improved. Lightened the car enough to offset the added bars. Lighter, stiffer, more power, it even looks prettier, it's gonna be fun !
BTW - Globes yellow hornet is much improved. Lightened the car enough to offset the added bars. Lighter, stiffer, more power, it even looks prettier, it's gonna be fun !
11-24-2011, 02:17 AM
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i lost third gear, then 4th gear, all within one lap.
then it sounded like a tin can with nails.
11-24-2011, 11:47 AM
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Well, if 20+ spec bolsters start showing up at PCA events in the Northeast.... and I get more evidence that these cars can be raced hard and reliably without major big-ticket overhauls/repairs every season.... then I'd be in. For now, I'll continue watching with close interest.
