fstockcarrera

Gary you have a PM

fstockcarrera

964 cup sold. The allure of the IC is an 8k replacement engine and a 4k Tranny.
VS a 30k engine tranny refresh after 90-100hrs .
Diabolical ridiculous the one i was in was stupid easy to drive compared to a 964cup. the 996 cup I have driven was also relatively easy to drive. Maybe I don't no any better since I learn early 911's

Rgrds Bob

GTgears

If you want a really well sorted Cayman racecar, BGB Motorsports had their black #38 Grand Am GS car on display and for sale at NJMP last weekend. Call John Tecce and discuss it with him. It will be faster and more sorted than an Interseries car. If you want the whole enchilada in an Cayman, it's the one single car on the market right now that has it all.

And I am pretty sure that if you want to write a check for a try before you buy, you could run it at Mid-Ohio in a few weeks. I know that until it sells they are trying to fill the seat in it for every GA event run. It's for rent to my knowledge.

fstockcarrera

Thanks. Exchanged quite a few emails with John Today. That is definitely the best car out there that I know of. John was extremely helpful. I think the Caymans are a great platform and Faster is not always more fun.

Rgrds Bob

por944s2

Call Will @ Precision Motorsports Racing in NJ @908-832-6572, he supports a few of them. Good Luck

DrJupeman

The end of an era.

gums

I've heard that the setup on these CI cars is way off, and the formula is hardly a spec because only Napleton will build them and won't let anyone duplicate it.
Nevertheless, I'm astounded to hear that they've rolled out nearly 50 of them, I can't imagine.
Because I love the retro graphic idea, I'd love to see as many different renditions as possible. Can we post photos somewhere?

MJR911

I can't comment on the build quality, but the cars are well under 2.10 at the Glen.

GTgears

One other comment I'll make is that I can confirm that they have built close to 50 of them. I know this because I've got an LSD in every single car they've built.

bauerjab

That's not saying much. I think Bob ran 205s (definitely 206s) in his 964 cup.

fstockcarrera

205.22(Record) Boyer and Savenor also got into the 205's in a 964cup
she will be missed

morefun

Spencer at Speedsport in Danbury CT services something like 15 of the ICs. You may want to give him a ring...

Rick DeMan

Thats not verrry fast.. I drove an F class 2003 Boxster to 2:09 in a PCA race

umwolverine

I ran my Interseries for the first time at Mid Ohio in the NNJPCA DE and with decent Hoosiers ran a 1:38.6 on the Club course. I only had two clean laps. My guess is you were looking at a limited number of slower drivers. With slicks and some more track time I think a 1:36 is reasonable.

I think that anyone who is really serious about cars will never take the position of "these cars suck, and my cars are always better". Every car has it's positives and negatives, and I'll try to bring that perspective here.

If the "pro" driver said the car was 'diabolical' and they were scared, then they either don't know how to drive, or have no clue how to set up a car. I personally know three pro (they get paid to drive) drivers that have driven the Interseries, and they all say the same thing. The car is a blast to drive, very smooth and very forgiving. Possibly the "pro" that was scared was driving a car that wasn't set up properly. If it was, then The guy doesn't know how to drive.

No doubt a Cup Car will be faster. And the answer to "why buy a slow car" is obvious: racing costs money, how fast do you want to go?

I seriously researched Buying a Cup Car. There were two things that swung it for me. First, fundamentally I think the Cayman chassis is better. Second was the main consideration. If you really look at the running costs, the Interseries is less than half the Cup Car.

I do agree that Napleton can be a pain in the ***, but if you want to race NASA or ITC you can deal with whoever you want. The advantage of getting a Napleton car is you're buying thousands of hours of track experience, vs a 'one off shop' that has experience with one car. You can look at what problems they've had and overall they have pretty much sorted things out. Check out their reliability over the last two years - it's damn good. They certainly don't have anything close to the experience of Porsche with their Cup Cars, but they are pretty damn good. Talk to Doug Livingston who is now running the ITC if you want to know the latest information.

It's not a Cup Car, but for someone who want to race one of best chassis Porsche has ever made, at a reasonable cost, this is the car.

cgomez

It all depends of what you want to do. I love driving/racing both Cars (have H or I PCA Cayman and a 997.2 Cup).
The Cayman is the better chassis, but its not a factory racecar. However, its a bit cheaper on consumables since it uses regular R Comps (Interseries can use slicks) and replacing engine and gearbox is $9k and $4.5K respectively (probably cheaper to let them blow thant to do preventive service every year?).

IMO, if you want to run a fast "Spec" class in CLub Racing, there's nothing better than a Cup Car, as all cars are (should be? ) the same, and safer / better build than almost anything else.

Caymans are a lot of fun to drive and the handling is sublime, but IMO its only enjoyable if you can compete in a well attended class (H or I Stock are a lot more attended than GTB-1) and the handling is just as good/better if build/setup by a knowledgeable shop like Spencer ***'s (He helped dialing out the Cayman IS spec to where it is today).
However, if you still want to run GTB1 in PCA why bother with a proprietary design/spec InterSeries or IC car? Just build your own starting with H or I car, pull all the weight out and more, install the wing - similar to what Ernie J. did with his now WC Cayman - and you have a car that is a LOT faster than an IC or Interseries Car.

Setting up my H/I Cayman for GTB1 is what Im considering as the next step if I decide to keep the car after this season.