Hamilton... Poster boy for biting the hand that feeds you
07-20-2011, 11:15 PM
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Lewis Hamilton is a great driver used to success, and seems unable to contain his emotions and work with the team to fix the issues. I really like the guy and understand his passion - but he needs to grow up. He reminds me of Tiger Woods in his early 20s...
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07-21-2011, 01:05 AM
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Hamilton has not come with anything but ATTITUDE that I saw. Criticize, blame, fuss, pout, all that.
I mean it makes me smile and laugh to hear Richard Petty talk about giving fans autographs and stop and talk with them and all that and say "OK" like he does. He was glad to do it - although I read he about went broke chasing the promo market.
Once back in the 1980's before Earnhardt was completely off the charts big we were talking and looking at somebodys car at Daytona and he was there too. He started talking about hunting and fishing and we did too. I am not really an old boy, although I am from down in Dixie, but I have hunted and fished around the world and he wanted to get in on that too.
Later when Dale was talking about getting to do a lot of things that most people might never do and that the black #3 Chevy gave him everything he had people just lapped it up. So even though Nascar fans arent the same as F1 fans from all over the world, a little schmoozing never hurts!
I know Hamilton aint from here, like most of the F1 boys, and aint like Earnhardt and Petty guys, but there is a right way to complain. Just say "I need more time to focus on winning the race " or something like that. Not "I aint got time for any of you. Just give me my money and you all buy my stuff and tell me how great I am."
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07-21-2011, 01:31 AM
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Worked out good for him too - until Senna came along.
Actually wasnt Prost "The Professor" or something like that. Of course he did win the Century Motorsports Award so somewhere he must have toned it down some. I think he got fired from one of the teams too. Cant say McLaren maybe? And he split when Senna showed up again. Of course Senna did not get too far past that either.
I guess in retrospect it is interesting how if somebody like Senna dislikes something and comments on it that it is better received than maybe Hamilton. Just who you are and how you say it.
But I dont see Hamilton as Professor II though.
07-21-2011, 11:51 AM
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Hamilton has not come with anything but ATTITUDE that I saw. Criticize, blame, fuss, pout, all that.
I know Hamilton aint from here, like most of the F1 boys, and aint like Earnhardt and Petty guys, but there is a right way to complain. Just say "I need more time to focus on winning the race " or something like that. Not "I aint got time for any of you. Just give me my money and you all buy my stuff and tell me how great I am."
I know Hamilton aint from here, like most of the F1 boys, and aint like Earnhardt and Petty guys, but there is a right way to complain. Just say "I need more time to focus on winning the race " or something like that. Not "I aint got time for any of you. Just give me my money and you all buy my stuff and tell me how great I am."
I must be missing something. Hamilton works, he runs good, he wins races, he is the WDC Champ once already and is on the way again, he presents himslf and the team well, he speaks well, hell he even looks good up there, sells F1 and maybe sells stuff along the way.
But the key part of that up there is
He Wins Races.Along with all the other things.
What else does he have to do? I mean Mario, who really did it all driving in his time, only won one WDC.
I realize that somebody might not like him because he is British, or is black , or looks like a dentist.
But he has proved he can bring it home by doing every week. That has to be worth something to you truly hard core racers, car guys, and fans.
There are no freebies out there on the race track. The second place guy wants to win by passing you, all the way down the line, and even the last place guy wants to at least pass you and beat someone ! You dont have to wonder how you did week in and out. It is all right there. And that is right down at your local dirt or asphalt track all the way to F1. It just gets more intense.
But the key part of that up there is
He Wins Races.Along with all the other things.
What else does he have to do? I mean Mario, who really did it all driving in his time, only won one WDC.
I realize that somebody might not like him because he is British, or is black , or looks like a dentist.
But he has proved he can bring it home by doing every week. That has to be worth something to you truly hard core racers, car guys, and fans.
There are no freebies out there on the race track. The second place guy wants to win by passing you, all the way down the line, and even the last place guy wants to at least pass you and beat someone ! You dont have to wonder how you did week in and out. It is all right there. And that is right down at your local dirt or asphalt track all the way to F1. It just gets more intense.
Cognitive dissonance there Tex , It's Ok because Vettel wins, well hamilton win races 2 and is also a WDC, where's the slack and Vettel can whine like a 'B" when he doesn't get his way...
Ask Webber..............................................
07-21-2011, 12:04 PM
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Hamilton reminds me more of Nigel Mansell fast and furious no brain for the big picture. Hamilton is still very young , there's still hope of achiving greatness and if he was driving a RB, i'm sure the same pundits would be singing his praises ...
2nd only to FA ........
07-21-2011, 12:32 PM
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I hope he gets the boot and he sits on a stool for a year. Probably wont happen but I bet (hope) McLaren aint going to to put up with a lot more crapola from him. If he doesnt like it where he is let him walk. There are plenty of drivers. McLaren made Hamilton not the other way around.
Hamilton is a pure race driver, with the kind of competitive attitude of a Senna or Lauda. He loves racing, wet or dry and his focus is always to win. He sort of reminds me of a little kid when he is on the podium
07-21-2011, 01:31 PM
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Wayne,
I guess you just have to like some of these guy style right?
Well I do like them . All of them really.
I just have a bad hard azz hard edge right wing Texas thing. I hate to see guys whine, cry, moan and blame. Everywhere. From the hardware store right up through the US Congress to F1. There is just way to much of it today. I guess it was always there but it is in your face today. I hate it!!!!
As much as these guys make, as much talent as they have, the great but tough job, babes, etc etc etc
THERE AINT NO WHINING IN F1
THERE AINT NO CRYING IN FORMULA 1
and then I will like Hamiltons style a lot lot better.
Style comes with age I guess. That is why you and I are so stylish !
I guess you just have to like some of these guy style right?
Well I do like them . All of them really.
I just have a bad hard azz hard edge right wing Texas thing. I hate to see guys whine, cry, moan and blame. Everywhere. From the hardware store right up through the US Congress to F1. There is just way to much of it today. I guess it was always there but it is in your face today. I hate it!!!!
As much as these guys make, as much talent as they have, the great but tough job, babes, etc etc etc
THERE AINT NO WHINING IN F1
THERE AINT NO CRYING IN FORMULA 1
and then I will like Hamiltons style a lot lot better.
Style comes with age I guess. That is why you and I are so stylish
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07-21-2011, 01:50 PM
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No not at all. Hamilton did not come from the same mold that Prost came from. Hamilton thinks he is the 2nd coming of Ayrton Senna. He even wears a similar colored helmet. When Hamilton charges hard and passes other cars, he looks brilliant. But he presently lacks the consistency of Senna. He is more in line with the "On and off" of Gilles Villeneuve. Another hard charger who made some brilliant passes in his time. But also wrecked his car on more than one occasion. When things do not go as planned in a race for Lewis Hamilton, there is a whole lot of carbon fiber left on the track. Hamilton is still learning, and who knows what the future holds for him. You need a top car to be champ. But the cars do not drive themselves. You still need the guy behind the wheel making good decisions corner after corner, race after race to be champ. It won't be happening, but I still think making Hamilton drive an HRT for a season would do wonders to show him how good he has had it at McLaren.