brake rotors and pads help
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brake rotors and pads help
Hey I started doing some DE events with my car and was wondering what some of you guys are using for good track/street setup... I'd like to keep the stock calipers but upgrade the rotors and pads and also do some steel brake hoses.
Please share some of your expertise with a track noobie, thanks in advance
Please share some of your expertise with a track noobie, thanks in advance
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You have a 997 Turbo and just started doing DE's with it. I would not change a thing at this stage. Your stock brakes are up to the task and then some.
Down the road, I would do the lines, and switch to a more track oriented pad and fluid.
Down the road, I would do the lines, and switch to a more track oriented pad and fluid.
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Wondering if I should just keep the stock rotors and go with a set of Pagid yellow? Please keep the info coming, i have another DE event lined up and would like to swap these pads before that event.
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Pagid Yellows work great. I like my Hawk Blues and feel they have plenty of stopping power and are cheaper. With Pagid you do get quality but you pay more for the name.
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Dinorocz:
You got fade because the stock pads heated up past their effective temp range. If you make the pad switch make sure you flush the brake fluid since you got that hot as well. If you are going to be doing more events at Pocono running that configuration of the track, then the Pagid Yellows would be a good choice. They last, and are pretty easy on the rotors. If you drive the car on the street on them, they will be noisy and dusty when cold. If the car isn't a daily driver, then you could live with it.
I would still stick with the OE rotors.
Steve: We've found that Hawk Blues work fine on a lighter weight car, and not so well on a heavy, high hp car. A 997 TT would cook them because of it's power and weight.
Thanks,
You got fade because the stock pads heated up past their effective temp range. If you make the pad switch make sure you flush the brake fluid since you got that hot as well. If you are going to be doing more events at Pocono running that configuration of the track, then the Pagid Yellows would be a good choice. They last, and are pretty easy on the rotors. If you drive the car on the street on them, they will be noisy and dusty when cold. If the car isn't a daily driver, then you could live with it.
I would still stick with the OE rotors.
Steve: We've found that Hawk Blues work fine on a lighter weight car, and not so well on a heavy, high hp car. A 997 TT would cook them because of it's power and weight.
Thanks,
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Good Point! I guess that is why they work so well for me, my car only weighs 2008 lbs. with driver and gas.
Dinorocz:
You got fade because the stock pads heated up past their effective temp range. If you make the pad switch make sure you flush the brake fluid since you got that hot as well. If you are going to be doing more events at Pocono running that configuration of the track, then the Pagid Yellows would be a good choice. They last, and are pretty easy on the rotors. If you drive the car on the street on them, they will be noisy and dusty when cold. If the car isn't a daily driver, then you could live with it.
I would still stick with the OE rotors.
Steve: We've found that Hawk Blues work fine on a lighter weight car, and not so well on a heavy, high hp car. A 997 TT would cook them because of it's power and weight.
Thanks,
You got fade because the stock pads heated up past their effective temp range. If you make the pad switch make sure you flush the brake fluid since you got that hot as well. If you are going to be doing more events at Pocono running that configuration of the track, then the Pagid Yellows would be a good choice. They last, and are pretty easy on the rotors. If you drive the car on the street on them, they will be noisy and dusty when cold. If the car isn't a daily driver, then you could live with it.
I would still stick with the OE rotors.
Steve: We've found that Hawk Blues work fine on a lighter weight car, and not so well on a heavy, high hp car. A 997 TT would cook them because of it's power and weight.
Thanks,
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Dinorocz:
You got fade because the stock pads heated up past their effective temp range. If you make the pad switch make sure you flush the brake fluid since you got that hot as well. If you are going to be doing more events at Pocono running that configuration of the track, then the Pagid Yellows would be a good choice. They last, and are pretty easy on the rotors. If you drive the car on the street on them, they will be noisy and dusty when cold. If the car isn't a daily driver, then you could live with it.
I would still stick with the OE rotors.
Steve: We've found that Hawk Blues work fine on a lighter weight car, and not so well on a heavy, high hp car. A 997 TT would cook them because of it's power and weight.
Thanks,
You got fade because the stock pads heated up past their effective temp range. If you make the pad switch make sure you flush the brake fluid since you got that hot as well. If you are going to be doing more events at Pocono running that configuration of the track, then the Pagid Yellows would be a good choice. They last, and are pretty easy on the rotors. If you drive the car on the street on them, they will be noisy and dusty when cold. If the car isn't a daily driver, then you could live with it.
I would still stick with the OE rotors.
Steve: We've found that Hawk Blues work fine on a lighter weight car, and not so well on a heavy, high hp car. A 997 TT would cook them because of it's power and weight.
Thanks,
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Lots of discussion on braided-steel lines, and not really universal love for them. Not to mention some are not even DOT rated, which means you are rolling dice as to whether they are even as durable as stock rubber lines!! IMHO, you're much better off sticking with stock brake lines, and it's easy enough to checks one's lines as a matter of course when track-prepping (you pros out there feel free to correct me here).
I dunno if PFC makes pads for your car, but they likely do. It is a superb track pad, has served both my cars well on the track (where the 993 is at stock weight) with excellent feel and zero fade. Worth checking out and comparing to the Pagids, IMHO.
Edward
I dunno if PFC makes pads for your car, but they likely do. It is a superb track pad, has served both my cars well on the track (where the 993 is at stock weight) with excellent feel and zero fade. Worth checking out and comparing to the Pagids, IMHO.
Edward
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I agree with Mark.
Porsche Rotors have been known to be of high quality and plenty sufficient for DE. I would look at upgrading your fluid and pads, but you aren't going to find a good 'dual purpose' pad. Pads that can handle the heat of track driving will sqeal on the street...Learn how to swap out your brake pads - takes about 5 minutes per corner, then you can switch for the track and the street.
Enjoy.
Porsche Rotors have been known to be of high quality and plenty sufficient for DE. I would look at upgrading your fluid and pads, but you aren't going to find a good 'dual purpose' pad. Pads that can handle the heat of track driving will sqeal on the street...Learn how to swap out your brake pads - takes about 5 minutes per corner, then you can switch for the track and the street.
Enjoy.
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Get more cooling to your brakes. Your problem isn't pad compound, it's cooling.
Put on the GT3RS 997.2 ducts and air deflectors. That should help your brakes, especially the rears.
Put on the GT3RS 997.2 ducts and air deflectors. That should help your brakes, especially the rears.