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2011 Malasian Grand Prix
04-05-2011, 03:23 PM
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Dez, no one can stop you from being an idiot, but yourself. Hamilton is a good driver, no doubt and overacheives when he has a car that is not up to par with the fastest on the grid as I've stated many times before. But he puts himself on the same level as Senna and has said this many times since he was a rookie. That's what I have a problem with. It's no different from all the comparisions of players that come into the NBA and say they are the next Michael Jordan. Do something first and then make the comparision to a legend.
Let's also not forget that Hamilton threw Trulli under the bus a couple years ago in Australia, lied to the FIA and was only caught because of the radio transmissions. Although not on the level of Alonsogate(s), it does show something about his character. And don't call someone a "poor man's Mansel", that is a slap in the face to Vettel. Once again he makes a comparision of someone who just started in F1 to a guy who has a long storied career in the sport. Have a little respect for your competitors.
Let's also not forget that Hamilton threw Trulli under the bus a couple years ago in Australia, lied to the FIA and was only caught because of the radio transmissions. Although not on the level of Alonsogate(s), it does show something about his character. And don't call someone a "poor man's Mansel", that is a slap in the face to Vettel. Once again he makes a comparision of someone who just started in F1 to a guy who has a long storied career in the sport. Have a little respect for your competitors.
I'm an idiot says the guy who claims Alonso is on his downside and that Shumacher would dominate the field upon his return.........
04-05-2011, 03:27 PM
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Hamilton is a great driver, better than Alonso in my opinion, but tooting your own horn is not something I respect, that's for others to do. Maybe Hamilton is trying to psych-out Vettel with his put down. Nothing else is working at the moment as long as RBR has the fastest car and Vettel is driving the way he has been.
Pete's statement about the new NBA players reminds me of Obama and the Nobel prize.
Pete's statement about the new NBA players reminds me of Obama and the Nobel prize.
04-05-2011, 03:27 PM
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The cars with KERS showed no speed advantage in Aus. The only time I can recall KERS providing a clear advantage was when Kimi blow by...someone....(a slow driver as I recall) at Spa for the victory. So, KERS may not play a significant roll in the outcome. It would be nice to see the wing and KERS make a difference in overtaking.
As far as DRS, it does not get activated for the 1st few laps.
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04-05-2011, 06:15 PM
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So many good drivers at the front, more than any era in recent history. Just give me a good race and don't let Vettel walk away with an unassailable lead early in the season.
04-05-2011, 06:52 PM
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Just add water (rain). Sadly, its the only time things get really interesting in F1 these days (just my HO).
04-08-2011, 10:19 AM
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After practice #2, you can throw a blanket over the Red Bulls & McLarens. The next best is over a second behind.
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04-08-2011, 12:55 PM
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Ferrari (and Alonso) seem way off the pace.
Looks like it is Red Bulls race to lose (I suspect Vettel is holding back).
Not a bad show from MS.
Friday Practice Session 1
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:37.651
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.316
3. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.791
4. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.377
5. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Cosworth 1:40.443
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:40.453
7. Nick Heidfeld Germany Renault 1:40.525
8. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth 1:40.581
9. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:40.601
10. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.646
11. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.734
12. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.748
13. Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.770
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.872
15. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.927
16. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Renault 1:41.620
17. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:41.627
18. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.642
19. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 1:42.154
20. Jerome d'Ambrosio Belgium Virgin-Cosworth 1:42.540
21. Davide Valsecchi Italy Lotus-Renault 1:44.054
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy HRT-Cosworth 1:45.228
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:46.267
24. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 1:47.932
Friday Practice Session 1
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.876
2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.881
3. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.010
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:37.090
5. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.088
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:38.089
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.585
8. Nick Heidfeld Germany Renault 1:38.570
9. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:38.583
10. Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:38.846
11. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Cosworth 1:38.968
12. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth 1:39.187
13. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 1:39.267
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:39.398
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:39.603
16. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:39.625
17. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:39.809
18. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.115
19. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 1:40.866
20. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Renault 1:41.890
21. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:43.197
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy HRT-Cosworth 1:43.991
23. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:44.886
24. Jerome d'Ambrosio Belgium Virgin-Cosworth No Time
Looks like it is Red Bulls race to lose (I suspect Vettel is holding back).
Not a bad show from MS.
Friday Practice Session 1
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:37.651
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.316
3. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.791
4. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.377
5. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Cosworth 1:40.443
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:40.453
7. Nick Heidfeld Germany Renault 1:40.525
8. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth 1:40.581
9. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:40.601
10. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.646
11. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:40.734
12. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.748
13. Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.770
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.872
15. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.927
16. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Renault 1:41.620
17. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:41.627
18. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.642
19. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 1:42.154
20. Jerome d'Ambrosio Belgium Virgin-Cosworth 1:42.540
21. Davide Valsecchi Italy Lotus-Renault 1:44.054
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy HRT-Cosworth 1:45.228
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:46.267
24. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 1:47.932
Friday Practice Session 1
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:36.876
2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.881
3. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.010
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:37.090
5. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.088
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:38.089
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:38.585
8. Nick Heidfeld Germany Renault 1:38.570
9. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:38.583
10. Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:38.846
11. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Cosworth 1:38.968
12. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth 1:39.187
13. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 1:39.267
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:39.398
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:39.603
16. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:39.625
17. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:39.809
18. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.115
19. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 1:40.866
20. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Renault 1:41.890
21. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:43.197
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy HRT-Cosworth 1:43.991
23. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:44.886
24. Jerome d'Ambrosio Belgium Virgin-Cosworth No Time
04-08-2011, 05:16 PM
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Some real surprises regarding who is NOT at the top and who is near the top.
Vettle will qualify near or at the top.
MS is not likely to grid higher than 8th.
Two teams are 1 sec faster than the rest of the field. I suspect Ferrari & Mercedes will bridge that gap quickly in the coming weeks. Maybe Williams and Toro Rosso will shave about 1/2 sec this year.
FA almost 2 sec off the pace? What's up with him.
Felipe is 1/2 sec faster. I guess he can't hear the radio. (that's for you, Raj.
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Vettle will qualify near or at the top.
MS is not likely to grid higher than 8th.
Two teams are 1 sec faster than the rest of the field. I suspect Ferrari & Mercedes will bridge that gap quickly in the coming weeks. Maybe Williams and Toro Rosso will shave about 1/2 sec this year.
FA almost 2 sec off the pace? What's up with him.
Felipe is 1/2 sec faster. I guess he can't hear the radio. (that's for you, Raj.
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04-08-2011, 05:20 PM
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Congrats Randy. You might as well not tune in for the race since you have already decided the outcome.
Friday's sessions mean very little. I expect Alonso to be no lower than 5th in qualifying. Ferrari seems to be sandbagging this one, just like RBR.
Friday's sessions mean very little. I expect Alonso to be no lower than 5th in qualifying. Ferrari seems to be sandbagging this one, just like RBR.
04-08-2011, 05:30 PM
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I doubt they're sandbagging at all (or if they are by that much), in which case lower than 5th is a good possibility.
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04-08-2011, 05:31 PM
#42
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Pardon my ignorance, but what reason does Ferrari have to sandbag at this point?
04-08-2011, 06:06 PM
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Why waste time trying to make headlines on Friday if you can't deliver on Saturday? They are Ferrari, they have enough headlines anyway!
(has nothing to do with Fernando, it is a Ferrari mentality, they have always done it this way)
04-08-2011, 06:11 PM
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Yeah, I understand not being fastest in practice for all of the reasons you mentioned. I was wondering what reason Ferrari would have to deliberately conceal the fact that they have a better pace than they appear to.
04-08-2011, 07:44 PM
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Ferrari does not ever worry themselves with fastest overall in practice. They run tests on new parts and race distance runs on tires and fuel. They don't worry about out right pace until Saturday. It's just how they work.
Why waste time trying to make headlines on Friday if you can't deliver on Saturday? They are Ferrari, they have enough headlines anyway!
(has nothing to do with Fernando, it is a Ferrari mentality, they have always done it this way)
Why waste time trying to make headlines on Friday if you can't deliver on Saturday? They are Ferrari, they have enough headlines anyway!
(has nothing to do with Fernando, it is a Ferrari mentality, they have always done it this way)