New track car choices...
03-21-2011, 11:37 AM
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Another question: anyone here track a 996 Carrera post motor failure? In other words: do you track a a non-turbo, non-GT2/3 996 whose motor has been 'fixed?' after it spun the #2 (?) rod bearing? If so, what are the proper fixes, and how well has the car been holding up since the fix?
Thanks,
-Z
Thanks,
-Z
You could run a 968 motor in your S2, that would give you 30+ more hp.
03-21-2011, 12:08 PM
#107
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Another question: anyone here track a 996 Carrera post motor failure? In other words: do you track a a non-turbo, non-GT2/3 996 whose motor has been 'fixed?' after it spun the #2 (?) rod bearing? If so, what are the proper fixes, and how well has the car been holding up since the fix?
Thanks,
-Z
Thanks,
-Z
03-22-2011, 01:17 AM
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it still the best trackcar platform. Period. I had no issues with PS in the last year and a half. The oiling issues atre sorted with OEM fixes like the X51 oil pan and most importantly using the right oil level. As a racecar is as reliable as any other Prosche bar a Cup Car. Mine ven survived the 4 Sebring races earlier this year.
I just wished Porsche did a Cayman Cup Car. Yes there are two private series now, but will need to get a newer car for that so not worth it for me to spend all that $ in converting my perfectly setup car.
However, a racecar is a racecar and there's a lot of maintenance $ that needs to be done if you want to avoid dissapointing DNFs. (On a track car you mostly wait for things to wear off or break, on a racecar my view is that it always has to be 100%)
BTW, the Cayman will get some rest this year..... Got a new toy
it still the best trackcar platform. Period. I had no issues with PS in the last year and a half. The oiling issues atre sorted with OEM fixes like the X51 oil pan and most importantly using the right oil level. As a racecar is as reliable as any other Prosche bar a Cup Car. Mine ven survived the 4 Sebring races earlier this year.
I just wished Porsche did a Cayman Cup Car. Yes there are two private series now, but will need to get a newer car for that so not worth it for me to spend all that $ in converting my perfectly setup car.
However, a racecar is a racecar and there's a lot of maintenance $ that needs to be done if you want to avoid dissapointing DNFs. (On a track car you mostly wait for things to wear off or break, on a racecar my view is that it always has to be 100%)
BTW, the Cayman will get some rest this year..... Got a new toy
my stripper is either racing, sitting in trailer waiting for the mechanic or at the mechanic. nothing broken, but i like to time out parts. i would go ape sh*t if my car fails on track
03-22-2011, 11:37 AM
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You could run a 968 motor in your S2, that would give you 30+ more hp.
Oh - and my main purpose for replacement is getting something newer, not necessarily faster or with more power. However, these days there aren't too many cars out there under 250hp!
-Z
03-22-2011, 11:42 AM
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Will you missed the $43k GT3. A local bought it and it's in my wrench's garage now. He also bought the 10k mile GT3 motor off E-Bay for $10k. Now that was a steal....
03-22-2011, 11:53 AM
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^^^^ See Z-man, the deals on the GT3 are out there and come up more frequently than you would think.... but you have to be ready for quick inspection and cash in hand.
03-22-2011, 11:59 AM
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03-22-2011, 12:09 PM
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03-23-2011, 02:53 AM
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10k GT3 motor for $10k !!!!????? wtf....Do you realise that's a dollar per k ?
Seriously that's crazy cheap isn't it?
Seriously that's crazy cheap isn't it?
03-23-2011, 12:30 PM
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- The cheap ones are typically ridden hard and put away wet.
- The cheap ones typically have high miles on them - which is not a major concern, except when it comes to scheduled maintenance and the higher costs associated with GT3 upkeep.
So - a question to the Rennlist track junkies: what is better: a decent, low mileage (under 40k) Cayman S with some track upgrades, or a GT3 that has been ridden like a rented mule?
Keep in mind that my main reason for upgrading is to have a more reliable and modern car to play with. Being the fastest one out there, or keeping up with the top drovers in my run group is NOT my primary concern. One thing I did notice is that there aren't too many Cayman's running around in the Instructor groups -- then again, in the NE, the mantra is "Go CUP CAR, or Go HOME!"
-Z-man.
03-23-2011, 01:26 PM
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Avoid a GT3, I had 2 of them, they were very expensive to maintain. One was brand new, the other a 18,000 miles car with 3,000 track miles or so. My Fiat has been so much cheaper to maintain.
GT3 are great cars but maintenance is expensive (still affordable maintenance compared to other cars). $40k is the least of your concerns as entry price, it's maintenance and consumables that are going to take a good chunk of cash: brake rotors, brake pads, tires (it eats rear ones in no-time), LSD, oil changes, front spoiler lips, clutch.
Avoid the 08 or older Cayman S for the reasons mentioned everywhere, yes there are fixes, but why pay for fixes that are already fixed in the 09+ Cayman S, plus you get a nice warranty up to 6 years and 100,000 miles if you shop properly.
Go with 09+ Cayman S. If you don't find one with LSD, you can put a guard LSD (much better). Find one with PASM, no changes needed other than alignment and good brake fluid. Run NT-01 or another affordable DOT-r tire that can be used on the streets. Keep it street legal, enjoy a nice road car. It is a nice autocross car too.
I went to 2 track days on Hoosiers with my Cayman and bone stock brake pads (castrol SRF fluid), brake pads look same as new. On a GT3 I would have used 30%-40% of the brake pads at the same track.
GT3 are great cars but maintenance is expensive (still affordable maintenance compared to other cars). $40k is the least of your concerns as entry price, it's maintenance and consumables that are going to take a good chunk of cash: brake rotors, brake pads, tires (it eats rear ones in no-time), LSD, oil changes, front spoiler lips, clutch.
Avoid the 08 or older Cayman S for the reasons mentioned everywhere, yes there are fixes, but why pay for fixes that are already fixed in the 09+ Cayman S, plus you get a nice warranty up to 6 years and 100,000 miles if you shop properly.
Go with 09+ Cayman S. If you don't find one with LSD, you can put a guard LSD (much better). Find one with PASM, no changes needed other than alignment and good brake fluid. Run NT-01 or another affordable DOT-r tire that can be used on the streets. Keep it street legal, enjoy a nice road car. It is a nice autocross car too.
I went to 2 track days on Hoosiers with my Cayman and bone stock brake pads (castrol SRF fluid), brake pads look same as new. On a GT3 I would have used 30%-40% of the brake pads at the same track.
