i am just a naive person who wants to see a reason behind anything.

my mechanic says those CS recaros are easily modifiable to allow crotch opening for 6-point harness so most likely that is what will be done. will see.

 

Easy or not. If they did not come with the sub belt hole they are not PCA aproved if you have to make a non factory hole.

There are some 6 point systems that have maker aproved installs that let you sit on the sub belts as they run to the same area as the lap belts. They do not require a sub hole.

 

i`ll discus it with him. what are those 6 point systems you mentioned, btw?

 

Those standards truly make sense. 4 points in a car that truly can't handle them (seats) are mondo dangeroso.

 

PCA will not allow the use of a Harness (4 or 6 point) without a seat designed for use with a harness. No stock seats with a harness of any type. In Zone one the Scroth 4 point special is allowed with proper seats, but with a proper seat, why not go for the Scroth 6 point in the first place?

 

What about this set up for a PCA event???

 

yep, it is recaro sport, 'CS' has same base.

I spoke with my mechanic other day, he says I should not be even worried about this as he installs those seats very often and makes them work with 6 point harnesses all the time, so it is not even an issue.

but from rules standpoint - it is indeed an interesting question as those seats are originally made to accomodate and work properly with 4 point harness.

 

 

Hi Cab&Coupe,
Where are the shoulder belts attached? Hard to see in this picture...

 

I am pretty sure that you can order some or all of the Recaro sport seats with the anti-sub belt pass through and that there is an additional charge. It was optional on the Speed seat.

 

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From the PCA DE Minimum standards:

"a 4-point system is allowed in non-Porsches that meet the following requirements:
- Meets the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 209.
- Attaches to the factory seat belt mounting points.
- Each belt is designed to work in a specific vehicle and that vehicle tag must be attached to the belt system.
An example of a system that meets the above criteria is the Schroth Quick Fit system."

To my knowledge, Schroth does not make the Quick Fit for Porsches, and the language specifically states for non-Porsches. The Lone Star Region follows these PCA recommendations. As Safety Chair for LSR, I would be strongly opposed to waving these rules.

 

Hey Pete, thought you might be out there... had the pleasure of meeting you at Portland Parade during the weekend track event @ PIR.
The shoulder belts attach to the seatbelt restraint mechanisms for the back seat.

 

That looks like a harness guide bar not a truss or roll bar. Are the straps going down and through the guides loops or are they going on an angle much lower than the bar and just inside the guides attached to the bar?

 

This rules out most of the staged Loti (Lotus in the plural?), excepting the Cups, the 2 Elevens, or those that re-seated, as that is almost a 'mod de rigueur' ...