87944turbo

I am looking for some opinions on harnesses for DE. I am installing a roll bar, fixed seats, and harnesses and also have a HANS.

I am leaning towards a six point setup over a 5 and am considering the following from g-force.
(http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/3-Cl...HOUSE-CLOSEOUT). This is 2009 DOM dated, but from what I understand from the PCA rule book, it should be acceptable for 5 yrs. I would assume the same is true for NASA and other series?

I was also looking at the Schroth Clubman (http://www.apexperformance.net/cartgenie/prod-1582.htm). I appreciate Schroth’s reputation and I also like that fact that they provide actual data and information related to the engineering/design of their product on the website.

I realize safety and cost can be a touchy subject, but I am curious if there are any opinions out there as to one choice or the other or if there is something else I should be considering. TIA.

Note: I plan on purchasing the same equipment for both driver and passenger.

krystar

since they're both SFI rated, there would be any difference in safety.

one thing to note is if the adjusters are pull-up or pull-down. makes a difference in ease of use depending on your seat. you've already picked camlock from what it looks like. just be sure to insert and yank back on each belt so that you know you're fully locked.

be sure to properly mount the subbelts or they won't be effective.

MUSSBERGER

I have the G-Force on my passenger seat and an M and R in the drivers seat. Both work fine. I have worn Shroth's in other cars. All things being equal I'd buy the Schroth

jbossolo

I love my Teamtech (6-point rampack with sternum strap).
http://www.teamtechmotorsports.com/r...ess/index.html
You feel like you have a full vest on!
Not too easy to use with the Hans (I've done it).

87944turbo

Good point, I have only used pull down and the closeout G-force that I am looking at is pull up. In a way it seems like pull up on the lap would be easier to do by yourself, but maybe I am missing something, again no personal experience with them.

I am still a little on the fence on this. I have only used cams, but do apprecieate the fact that latch and link is simple and has practicaly zero potential to unlock if assembled correctly. I have never used one though and wonder if seem like a PITA after using cam locks.

I guess as a follow up, I have noticed that there are 2" shoulder belt harnesses out there for use with HANS. I have not yet been able to determine if this is simply for comfort or for some other reason. From what I have read, the HANS was designed for use with 3" belts, so I am a little confused about this.

MUSSBERGER

Their product must be better than their website

krystar

teamtech needs to work on their web publishing....those pictures look like they were taken with a 1mp cell phone cam

krystar

i've used camlock and it's real simple and intuitive. but i bought latchlink instead. i takes a bit of effort to put on. when i was reading on camlock vs latchlink, the one thing that stuck out was how a latchlink is plainly visible if it's locked. a camlock...you can't see the lock. and i like how there's no small parts to fail. everything's beefy

Potomac-Greg

Keep in mind that with a HANS (or Defnder or R3) the more you can do by feel, the better, since head range of motion is restricted.

Chaos

6pt usracegear.com

Lemming

Go with a 6-point, the family jewels will appreciate it. Take it from a man who was recently in a 50 mph track crash with a 5-point belt

kush07

Although you could use either, the HANS is designed with a 2" harness in mind.

2" lap belts are also being touted to be safer as the belt sits lower on your hips allowing less movement in the event of an accident. Schroth site talks about this.

Circuit Motorsports

No a HANS was never designed with a 2" harness in mind. They were desgined with 3" shoulder straps and have always been tested with the 3" straps for their certification.

kush07

Maybe "designed" was a poor choice of words, but I'm pretty sure a 2" is preferred for comfort and effectiveness (not that a 3" isn't effective).

Circuit Motorsports

It's more due to the number of people who don't have the shoulder harnesses mounted in the ideal location for the HANS device. The 2" feels better for some when their harnesses aren't mounted in the correct way. Nowhere is it said by HANS or anyone that the 2" is more effective than a 3" shoulder harness.