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Old 05-31-2010, 02:00 PM
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Default World press starting to question F. Alonso now

Hate to say it, but I think Pete was right with this thought and a few weeks ahead of everyone else. As a fan of Alonso, I hope it's only a temporary slump and he will be back on the podium by the next race, but the results speak for themselves.

The best driver in the field, a flawed genius, a spoilt, over-rated prima donna - opinions are divided about Fernando Alonso, but is the Spaniard really worth the mega-bucks Ferrari is paying him..?
He might have blamed Ferrari's lack of performance for his failure to do any better than eighth place in last weekend's Turkish Grand Prix – dealing a blow to his world championship chances – but others are starting to question whether the errors and inconsistencies that have blighted Fernando Alonso's F1 2010 challenge so far are really all down to the car and not the driver.

In one of the worst-kept secrets in recent F1 memory, Alonso arrived at the fabled Scuderia late last year as a double world champion and the driver widely rated as the best in the field – the only man, indeed, to have beaten the record-breaking Michael Schumacher to the laurels. Twice. It was billed as a marriage made in heaven, between the most famous team in the sport's long history – a legend in its own right – and the driver who would go on to deliver the Prancing Horse a whole host of grand prix victories and titles. Thus far, such a forecast has yet to truly materialise.

There has been, from the opening seven races of the season this year, just a sole triumph – in the Bahrain curtain-raiser, and that was only achieved after the pole-sitter and pace-setting Red Bull Racing of Sebastian Vettel ran into difficulties. Since then, there have been myriad issues and uncharacteristic mistakes, from the first corner spin Down Under in Melbourne, the qualifying misjudgement in Sepang – for a driver of his experience, a cardinal sin – the jump-start in Shanghai, the catastrophic practice shunt in Monte Carlo that destroyed his F10 and left the Spaniard to begin from plum last around a circuit at which overtaking is all-but impossible, and now the error and general lack of pace in Istanbul.

There were gloomy post-race mutterings that his car was 'not too competitive' and 'obviously not enough' to do battle for glory with the likes of Red Bull, McLaren and even Mercedes – but the real question should be, how much blame can be attributed to the equipment and how much the man behind the wheel? In Turkey, team-mate Felipe Massa finished some ten seconds ahead in the sister scarlet machine and set a better fastest lap time to-boot, whilst the qualifying duel between the pair remains finely-poised at 4-3 to the Oviedo native. In Istanbul, BBC F1 commentator and former grand prix ace Martin Brundle referred to Alonso live on-air as a 'miserable so-and-so' – but on the basis of the score sheet and timing screens, miserable slow-and-slow might perhaps be more accurate.

There seems little doubt that the Ferrari – arguably the best car over a race distance back at the beginning of the campaign – has now fallen some way adrift of Red Bull, McLaren and perhaps also even Mercedes, meaning the points squandered in Australia, Malaysia, China, Monaco and Turkey could yet come back to haunt the 22-time grand prix-winner come season's end. He was roundly praised for having hauled a car with serious downshifting issues in Sepang into the points before his engine blew – but then didn't Schumacher nurse a car that was stuck in fifth gear to an altogether loftier second place in the 1994 Spanish Grand Prix..?

And then there is the subject of team harmony. As Lewis Hamilton can doubtless attest, Alonso is not always the easiest person to have as a team-mate, and even Giancarlo Fisichella has stories to tell of toys being thrown in Montreal in 2006, when the Italian had the brazen audacity to vault past the Spaniard at the start of the race and ****** the lead, going on to retain that advantage – to the evident frustration of the driver of the sister machine – for almost half of the race.

You sense there might have been similar ructions when Massa surprised just about everyone in the light of his injuries last year by out-qualifying Alonso in Sakhir two months ago, and arguably the pair's relationship has never been the same since. Already strained by 'Singapore-gate' – with Massa having previously accused the Renault race-fixing plot and Alonso's consequent victory of costing him the 2008 F1 World Championship – that relationship was subsequently stretched to breaking-point by events in Shanghai on 18 April, 2010, when Ferrari No.8 unceremoniously and ruthlessly elbowed Ferrari No.7 onto the grass entering the pit-lane during the Chinese Grand Prix, in order to make sure his car was serviced first and that it was his team-mate who lost out. The move caused uproar in the paddock and amongst the sport's fans, as Alonso showed Massa in no uncertain terms just who was boss at Ferrari – and paid him back for having dared to outpace him in Bahrain.

Ethically, the manoeuvre was reprehensible, and drew further comparisons between Alonso and the late, great Ayrton Senna, who similarly had difficulties in comprehending just how any driver in the same car as him could possibly be faster – and who similarly felt precious little compunction in single-mindedly forcing his rivals, team-mate or otherwise, out of the way.

Both, it can be argued, are flawed geniuses, but should Alonso fail to live up to the tifosi's expectations by not delivering them the crown this year, that genius will appear somewhat diluted. It was suggested prior to the start of F1 2010 that a brace of campaigns struggling with an uncompetitive Renault might have dimmed Alonso's once sparkling talent to a degree, and only time will tell whether or not that is true. One thing, however, appears clear. Having been transformed from a mere hero into a god upon arriving at Maranello, perhaps that deification was just a touch premature.
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So...you found an Alonso hater who can type...
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I think it's premature to write him off. It's not like Massa's car is much better.
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Originally Posted by 9.5 Degrees
Hate to say it, but I think Pete was right with this thought and a few weeks ahead of everyone else. As a fan of Alonso, I hope it's only a temporary slump and he will be back on the podium by the next race, but the results speak for themselves.

The best driver in the field, a flawed genius, a spoilt, over-rated prima donna - opinions are divided about Fernando Alonso, but is the Spaniard really worth the mega-bucks Ferrari is paying him..?
He might have blamed Ferrari's lack of performance for his failure to do any better than eighth place in last weekend's Turkish Grand Prix – dealing a blow to his world championship chances – but others are starting to question whether the errors and inconsistencies that have blighted Fernando Alonso's F1 2010 challenge so far are really all down to the car and not the driver.

In one of the worst-kept secrets in recent F1 memory, Alonso arrived at the fabled Scuderia late last year as a double world champion and the driver widely rated as the best in the field – the only man, indeed, to have beaten the record-breaking Michael Schumacher to the laurels. Twice. It was billed as a marriage made in heaven, between the most famous team in the sport's long history – a legend in its own right – and the driver who would go on to deliver the Prancing Horse a whole host of grand prix victories and titles. Thus far, such a forecast has yet to truly materialise.

There has been, from the opening seven races of the season this year, just a sole triumph – in the Bahrain curtain-raiser, and that was only achieved after the pole-sitter and pace-setting Red Bull Racing of Sebastian Vettel ran into difficulties. Since then, there have been myriad issues and uncharacteristic mistakes, from the first corner spin Down Under in Melbourne, the qualifying misjudgement in Sepang – for a driver of his experience, a cardinal sin – the jump-start in Shanghai, the catastrophic practice shunt in Monte Carlo that destroyed his F10 and left the Spaniard to begin from plum last around a circuit at which overtaking is all-but impossible, and now the error and general lack of pace in Istanbul.
There were gloomy post-race mutterings that his car was 'not too competitive' and 'obviously not enough' to do battle for glory with the likes of Red Bull, McLaren and even Mercedes – but the real question should be, how much blame can be attributed to the equipment and how much the man behind the wheel? In Turkey, team-mate Felipe Massa finished some ten seconds ahead in the sister scarlet machine and set a better fastest lap time to-boot, whilst the qualifying duel between the pair remains finely-poised at 4-3 to the Oviedo native. In Istanbul, BBC F1 commentator and former grand prix ace Martin Brundle referred to Alonso live on-air as a 'miserable so-and-so' – but on the basis of the score sheet and timing screens, miserable slow-and-slow might perhaps be more accurate.
There seems little doubt that the Ferrari – arguably the best car over a race distance back at the beginning of the campaign – has now fallen some way adrift of Red Bull, McLaren and perhaps also even Mercedes, meaning the points squandered in Australia, Malaysia, China, Monaco and Turkey could yet come back to haunt the 22-time grand prix-winner come season's end. He was roundly praised for having hauled a car with serious downshifting issues in Sepang into the points before his engine blew – but then didn't Schumacher nurse a car that was stuck in fifth gear to an altogether loftier second place in the 1994 Spanish Grand Prix..?
And then there is the subject of team harmony. As Lewis Hamilton can doubtless attest, Alonso is not always the easiest person to have as a team-mate, and even Giancarlo Fisichella has stories to tell of toys being thrown in Montreal in 2006, when the Italian had the brazen audacity to vault past the Spaniard at the start of the race and ****** the lead, going on to retain that advantage – to the evident frustration of the driver of the sister machine – for almost half of the race.

You sense there might have been similar ructions when Massa surprised just about everyone in the light of his injuries last year by out-qualifying Alonso in Sakhir two months ago, and arguably the pair's relationship has never been the same since. Already strained by 'Singapore-gate' – with Massa having previously accused the Renault race-fixing plot and Alonso's consequent victory of costing him the 2008 F1 World Championship – that relationship was subsequently stretched to breaking-point by events in Shanghai on 18 April, 2010, when Ferrari No.8 unceremoniously and ruthlessly elbowed Ferrari No.7 onto the grass entering the pit-lane during the Chinese Grand Prix, in order to make sure his car was serviced first and that it was his team-mate who lost out. The move caused uproar in the paddock and amongst the sport's fans, as Alonso showed Massa in no uncertain terms just who was boss at Ferrari – and paid him back for having dared to outpace him in Bahrain.

Ethically, the manoeuvre was reprehensible, and drew further comparisons between Alonso and the late, great Ayrton Senna, who similarly had difficulties in comprehending just how any driver in the same car as him could possibly be faster – and who similarly felt precious little compunction in single-mindedly forcing his rivals, team-mate or otherwise, out of the way.

Both, it can be argued, are flawed geniuses, but should Alonso fail to live up to the tifosi's expectations by not delivering them the crown this year, that genius will appear somewhat diluted. It was suggested prior to the start of F1 2010 that a brace of campaigns struggling with an uncompetitive Renault might have dimmed Alonso's once sparkling talent to a degree, and only time will tell whether or not that is true. One thing, however, appears clear. Having been transformed from a mere hero into a god upon arriving at Maranello, perhaps that deification was just a touch premature.
Great find and of course, the world press eventually comes around to what I've been monitoring all along.

Forgive me, but I've taken artistic liberties with highlighting important sections of the article I feel are necessary to point out.
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Wayne, wakeup Wayne! Time to spew your vitriolic that you confuse as facts and hurl invectives at the writer of the article that 9.5degrees posted.
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Me tinks that's Pete's best work todate Mr 9.5 Negative camber....


Keep trying Guys ......


From World Pressha News :
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Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 79P 25 Million yearly

Michael Schumacher German Mercedes GP 34P 30 million Yearly

The best driver in the field, a flawed genius, a spoilt, over-rated gay prima donna - opinions are divided about Michael schumacher , but is the German really worth the mega-bucksMercedes is paying him..?

He blamed Mercedes lack of performance for his failure to better his teammate, forcing the team to build him a limo , which in turn he drove to a 4th place in last weekend's Turkish Grand Prix, dealing another deathblow to his world championship chances – but others are starting to question whether the errors and inconsistencies that have blighted Michael Schumachers F1 2010 challenge so far and netted only 34 points are really all down to the car and not the driver.

Considering this ! Schumacher finished a mere 7/10th of a sec ahead of his economically paid and average talented teammate and was still some 34 seconds behind the leaders and most telling a full 25 seconds more than what his teammate was doing earlier in the season, before he was Red-bulled by the team !



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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Me tinks that's Pete's best work todate Mr 9.5 Negative camber....


Keep trying Guys ......


From World Pressha News :
(Pete Herman 9.5 deg/ 1200 gmt)

Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 79P 25 Million yearly

Michael Schumacher German Mercedes GP 34P 30 million Yearly

The best driver in the field, a flawed genius, a spoilt, over-rated gay prima donna - opinions are divided about Michael schumacher , but is the German really worth the mega-bucksMercedes is paying him..?

He blamed Mercedes lack of performance for his failure to better his teammate, forcing the team to build him a limo , which in turn he drove to a 4th place in last weekend's Turkish Grand Prix, dealing another deathblow to his world championship chances – but others are starting to question whether the errors and inconsistencies that have blighted Michael Schumachers F1 2010 challenge so far and netted only 34 points are really all down to the car and not the driver.

Considering this ! Schumacher finished a mere 7/10th of a sec ahead of his economically paid and average talented teammate and was still some 34 seconds behind the leaders and most telling a full 25 seconds more than what his teammate was doing earlier in the season, before he was Red-bulled by the team !



You were right Larry, Wayne comes in again with his weak retort yet again. Pathetic

Here is the F1 site it's from: Read it and weep. Now others know what I've been saying since 2005. Over rated prima donna, low on the development skills and a cancer within any team.

http://www.crash.net/
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Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 79P...... 25 Million yearly

Michael Schumacher German Mercedes GP 34P.... 30 million Yearly

The Prima donna ?


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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 79P...... 25 Million yearly

Michael Schumacher German Mercedes GP 34P.... 30 million Yearly

The Prima donna ?


Fernando Alonso: 2 World Championships

Michael Schumacher: 7 World Championships

I'd say Fernando is overpaid
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