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Is Alonso on the backside of his career?
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Look again Ponch. Reading comprehension may not be your strongest suit. That's called sarcasm. "Dig Deeper" and you'll find the post where I broke down the contenders and came away with "Hamilton" as my 2010 WDC pick. If Alonso is the "one" it shouldn't be a problem regardless of whom I chose, right? I could have the field and Alonso would still win it all, right?
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Folks, What anyone has not brought up is the fact that this year there is no testing outside of races.
This I belive has hurt more both Alonso(new car-ferrari,engine issue and chasis not improving quickly enough like many british teams...) and schumi(new car-oversteer, new team, younger hot teammate...) IMHO!
This I belive has hurt more both Alonso(new car-ferrari,engine issue and chasis not improving quickly enough like many british teams...) and schumi(new car-oversteer, new team, younger hot teammate...) IMHO!
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Renault confident of passing Mercedes
By Pablo Elizalde Monday, June 7th 2010, 10:19 GMT
Renault's technical director James Allison is confident the French squad will overtake Mercedes GP soon if it can keep its development rate.
"We started the year a reasonable amount behind Mercedes and we've gradually been hunting them down," said Allison in a team preview ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix.
LOL..... Before MS input bada bing .. after .............![surrender](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/surrender.gif)
Ahhhh .... the great one ....
By Pablo Elizalde Monday, June 7th 2010, 10:19 GMT
Renault's technical director James Allison is confident the French squad will overtake Mercedes GP soon if it can keep its development rate.
"We started the year a reasonable amount behind Mercedes and we've gradually been hunting them down," said Allison in a team preview ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix.
LOL..... Before MS input bada bing .. after .............
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Ahhhh .... the great one ....
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Renault confident of passing Mercedes
By Pablo Elizalde Monday, June 7th 2010, 10:19 GMT
Renault's technical director James Allison is confident the French squad will overtake Mercedes GP soon if it can keep its development rate.
"We started the year a reasonable amount behind Mercedes and we've gradually been hunting them down," said Allison in a team preview ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix.
LOL..... Before MS input bada bing .. after .............![surrender](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/surrender.gif)
Ahhhh .... the great one ....![cherrsagai](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/drink.gif)
By Pablo Elizalde Monday, June 7th 2010, 10:19 GMT
Renault's technical director James Allison is confident the French squad will overtake Mercedes GP soon if it can keep its development rate.
"We started the year a reasonable amount behind Mercedes and we've gradually been hunting them down," said Allison in a team preview ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix.
LOL..... Before MS input bada bing .. after .............
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Ahhhh .... the great one ....
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Damn this thread moves fast…
Schumacher’s contribution thus far has been to explain that he ran out of setup ideas for the SWB car. The long wheelbase car, when it debuted, wasn’t initially any better, so they had to tweak the aerodynamics again. At this point the car hasn’t finished any better than the SWB car had in the hands of Rosberg. What I’m betting on is the fact that the switch will allow more overall potential but thus far it hasn’t been found. As of right now, though, Kubica has brough Renault closer to MB than MS has brought MB to Mclaren and Red Bull. That sorry excuse of a red car is truly frustrating and while your point about MB’s development being better than Ferrari’s has been valid, that’s like saying I gave that 600 lb fat guy a mile head start in a 2 mile race. I think we do agree though that the MS/Brawn combo is the best on the grid.
Holy ish, fire from the Germans and the British. Schumacher bested Rosberg in Spain and Nico wasn’t helped out by a botched pit stop.
At Monaco, it was Nico’s fault of not being able to utilize a clear track when he stayed out. We’ve all seen Michael do it in previous years where during the stops right before or after a stop, he’s absolutely on the limit, like the flick of a switch. Nico’s luck wasn’t helped by Alonso going extremely well that race.
In Turkey Michael put in 2 fast laps before his pitstop and Nico’s times stayed the same, again utilizing strategy to his advantage. Michael is beginning to beat Nico and while I agree it might be premature to announce that he finally has the advantage, all I was saying is that he’s close the gap substantially, which is the case.
As for the MB’s speed, I know Ross said that last year’s car didn’t have the same overall potential as the Red Bull going from last year into this year. It’s actually surprising to me that they continue to develop it rather than focusing exclusively on next year. Maybe the points are too close or maybe some of the ideas from this year’s car will make it on to next year’s car. But let’s face it, Schumacher is getting better adjusting well and with Brawn in charge it won’t be too long before a MB car is competing for overall victories.
I fail to see how you reach the conclusion that MS hasn't brought Mercedes closer to the front of the grid. Is MB still 30 seconds behind the Red Bulls? The answer is yes. But, they have leap frogged Ferrari and are now the 3rd quickest on the grid after only their 5th or 6th race this year.
Canada will be their 8th race and I'm hoping for the gap to RB and McLaren to close up more, but make no mistake, the experience and technical feedback a driver of his caliber, coupled with Ross Brawn at the helm cannot be matched anywhere else on the grid.
Canada will be their 8th race and I'm hoping for the gap to RB and McLaren to close up more, but make no mistake, the experience and technical feedback a driver of his caliber, coupled with Ross Brawn at the helm cannot be matched anywhere else on the grid.
The team is further from the front with MS input than before.... MS is not Yet ahead of Rosberg, take a look at the avg and how much of his gain on Rosberg is from Brawn assistance (if Brawn had pitted Rosberg first in Turkey, he would have shot in front of schumacher) and even after such Both drivers finished nose to tail in turkey, there is no clear Schumacher advantage yet.....
At Monaco, it was Nico’s fault of not being able to utilize a clear track when he stayed out. We’ve all seen Michael do it in previous years where during the stops right before or after a stop, he’s absolutely on the limit, like the flick of a switch. Nico’s luck wasn’t helped by Alonso going extremely well that race.
In Turkey Michael put in 2 fast laps before his pitstop and Nico’s times stayed the same, again utilizing strategy to his advantage. Michael is beginning to beat Nico and while I agree it might be premature to announce that he finally has the advantage, all I was saying is that he’s close the gap substantially, which is the case.
As for the MB’s speed, I know Ross said that last year’s car didn’t have the same overall potential as the Red Bull going from last year into this year. It’s actually surprising to me that they continue to develop it rather than focusing exclusively on next year. Maybe the points are too close or maybe some of the ideas from this year’s car will make it on to next year’s car. But let’s face it, Schumacher is getting better adjusting well and with Brawn in charge it won’t be too long before a MB car is competing for overall victories.
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No testing places an enormous strain on the driver because there’s only so much he can do except go flat out and communicate, as best as possible, what the car’s doing and look for patterns in its behavior in certain conditions. That would at least give the engineers an idea as to how to set the car up or what to focus on when they’re drawing up new pieces. Gone are the days where a driver can basically steal back time by simply pounding around a test track looking for solutions as often as possible.
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I like to revive this thread everytime Alonso commits yet ANOTHER mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!! and costs he and more importantly his team needed points.
IF YOU CUT A CHICANE WITH ALL 4 WHEELS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU TOOK THE POSITION FAIRLY???????
All he had to do is lift right after that, it's seen all the time from karts to junior formulas. What makes Alonso think he is special and doesn't have to abide by the rules? The fact that Kubica's car failed shortly thereafter is irrelavant. Alonso should have given his the spot right back.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I've lost count how many major mistakes Alonso has made this year. The guy is seriously losing it mentally and as a racer isn't doing himself or his team any favors.
IF YOU CUT A CHICANE WITH ALL 4 WHEELS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU TOOK THE POSITION FAIRLY???????
All he had to do is lift right after that, it's seen all the time from karts to junior formulas. What makes Alonso think he is special and doesn't have to abide by the rules? The fact that Kubica's car failed shortly thereafter is irrelavant. Alonso should have given his the spot right back.
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I've lost count how many major mistakes Alonso has made this year. The guy is seriously losing it mentally and as a racer isn't doing himself or his team any favors.
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I like to revive this thread everytime Alonso commits yet ANOTHER mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!! and costs he and more importantly his team needed points.
IF YOU CUT A CHICANE WITH ALL 4 WHEELS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU TOOK THE POSITION FAIRLY???????
All he had to do is lift right after that, it's seen all the time from karts to junior formulas. What makes Alonso think he is special and doesn't have to abide by the rules? The fact that Kubica's car failed shortly thereafter is irrelavant. Alonso should have given his the spot right back.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I've lost count how many major mistakes Alonso has made this year. The guy is seriously losing it mentally and as a racer isn't doing himself or his team any favors.
IF YOU CUT A CHICANE WITH ALL 4 WHEELS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU TOOK THE POSITION FAIRLY???????
All he had to do is lift right after that, it's seen all the time from karts to junior formulas. What makes Alonso think he is special and doesn't have to abide by the rules? The fact that Kubica's car failed shortly thereafter is irrelavant. Alonso should have given his the spot right back.
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I've lost count how many major mistakes Alonso has made this year. The guy is seriously losing it mentally and as a racer isn't doing himself or his team any favors.
FA checked over radio with the team before attempting the pass and Ferrari cleared it. Sorry you don't have all the facts.
Plus, the FIA contradicts itself constantly. Purportedly they were saying they wanted to encourage drivers to pass to make the races more interesting.
After this incident, it's unlikely that anyone in their right mind will want to try passing in an already monotonous pole-position-to-the-finish pattern that repeats itself again and again.
Then again, you probably don't care about real racing and passing, do you? Oh, that's right, except when it's the Safety Car. Passing then is cool.
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Fixed it. Go back and watch at around 1 hour and 11 mins on your DVR and tell me what you see? Hint, you'll see a car pass the safety car and not receive any penalty. Why not?? I guess the little girl from Ferrari didn't get on the radio and complain this time.
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I like to revive this thread everytime Alonso commits yet ANOTHER mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!! and costs he and more importantly his team needed points.
IF YOU CUT A CHICANE WITH ALL 4 WHEELS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU TOOK THE POSITION FAIRLY???????
All he had to do is lift right after that, it's seen all the time from karts to junior formulas. What makes Alonso think he is special and doesn't have to abide by the rules? The fact that Kubica's car failed shortly thereafter is irrelavant. Alonso should have given his the spot right back.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I've lost count how many major mistakes Alonso has made this year. The guy is seriously losing it mentally and as a racer isn't doing himself or his team any favors.
IF YOU CUT A CHICANE WITH ALL 4 WHEELS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU TOOK THE POSITION FAIRLY???????
All he had to do is lift right after that, it's seen all the time from karts to junior formulas. What makes Alonso think he is special and doesn't have to abide by the rules? The fact that Kubica's car failed shortly thereafter is irrelavant. Alonso should have given his the spot right back.
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I've lost count how many major mistakes Alonso has made this year. The guy is seriously losing it mentally and as a racer isn't doing himself or his team any favors.