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Old 05-03-2010, 10:51 PM
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WTF ,,,,,!,,,,!,,!,,, what car
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Heading to VIR in a couple weeks, so thanks for the post and video. That was rocking...

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WTF ,,,,,!,,,,!,,!,,, what car
RedGT30 — May 03, 2010 — Ride with Jordan Taylor in the Racers Edge Motorsports Mazda RX-8 as he sets a new track record and claims the pole position for the GRAND-AM Rolex race at Virginia International Raceway.
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Originally Posted by 930man
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" Ride with Jordan Taylor in the Racers Edge Motorsports Mazda RX-8 as he sets a new track record and claims the pole position for the GRAND-AM Rolex race at Virginia International Raceway. "
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WOW, that RX8 is flying!

Thanks for sharing.
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Dude, I could clip off a lap like that... on my PS3.

Lap time about 1:50? That car is SET UP. Nice driving!
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That's why he gets paid to race while we all pay to race. Good stuff. His speed up the esses and his approach to Hog Pen, he does the majority of his braking at 17, while most of us do more braking at 16. Pretty obvious watching his video that his way is faster. I need to remember that my next trip to VIR.

Man he can drive.
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he does the majority of his braking at 17, while most of us do more braking at 16. Pretty obvious watching his video that his way is faster.

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That guy was smoking! Just the way I do it, only a little faster.

Personally, I like the way he gets up the esses. No lift until he gets to the third esse, and then just sneaks out of the throttle a little.
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That was smoooth. +1 "Man he can drive"
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Rain coming up the windshield too!

TA-DA! Give Mark a gold star! Way to pick up what few do!!!
Dave-Why does braking later work in this situation? Conventional thinking would say brake earlier, give up some time coming down the hill and carry more speed onto the front straight where you can use it longer.

And, for an average club racer, how would one arrive at this trade off? Data and segment times, or is there a rule of thumb to apply on compromises like this?

thanks in advance...

Great video!
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Originally Posted by Todsimpson
Rain coming up the windshield too!



Dave-Why does braking later work in this situation? Conventional thinking would say brake earlier, give up some time coming down the hill and carry more speed onto the front straight where you can use it longer.

And, for an average club racer, how would one arrive at this trade off? Data and segment times, or is there a rule of thumb to apply on compromises like this?

thanks in advance...

Great video!
I would say that in this particular segment of the track, with this car (lots of wing & splitter), carrying more speed in 16 uses the car at its advantage, connecting the dots & making it almost a straightaway there. Using more brakes would do little except slow him down. He uses light brakes + a downshift to settle the car, help the front bite, and get the car in the right gear loaded on the rear tires for the launch out. At 17, with the elevation change (compression), he can use the brakes to pivot the car so in the 2nd half as he approaches 17a, he is pointed more in the proper direction with less steering input. Watch his hands there--he doesn't use as much as you would think to rotate the car thru that essentially double apex, and he unwinds a bit in the middle.

As for your second question, which is a good one, I would say a combination of segment times trying various things (this is what practice is for) combined with a thorough understanding of the topography & pavement features, and what inputs you need to give your car in order for it to deliver what you want from it--in this case carrying lots of speed in, helping rotate with the brakes, and using less steering out to carry speed down the long straight to T1. I strongly suspect that this driver has either walked or ridden a bike over the entire Full Course.

All IMO, of course.







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Thanks!

Larry-I'll take all the help I can get...


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