500

Hah-Hah!

OK, maybe we are not exactly on the same page with this one. I do respect your opinion and the evidence you provide is notable. I would only say some of that is strong suppostion, but not proven fact (well, at least I think it is not proven... like we don't REALLY know what happened at Singapore etc.)

What I would offer though is one can make a similar case for many other top drivers (e.g. Schumacher and Senna had their controversies which can be debated to the end of time too)

ltc

That would be a difficult case to make, given the sheer amount of damage left in the wake of the SS Little Miss Sunshine in such a short period of time.

MJSpeed

How is this complaining? He was asked what happened and he answered it. That's like saying Schumi was complaining about the "wheel nut missing", ridiculous.

This is exactly why I just called it ridiculous. You start by saying "almost certainly" ...it can't be both, are you certain or not? (No need to answer, we all know what it is) You finish with "probably" with a bunch of "could be's" in between. The reason; because you don't know.

The only things we do know are:
1) Alonso had a problem with the gearbox (he states "no clutch")
2) It was an amazing drive to do what he did under the circumstances
3) He was faster the Button
4) Mark Webber still sucks

Oh and one more thing, I've only seen this done by Schumi in Spain and Senna at the 1991 Grand Prix of Brazil, when he won in the rain while stuck in 3rd!

brendo

i agree, and OJ was framed.

ten pages so far, must have been a good race weekend

Flying Finn

What Schumi & Senna did was way more impressive though. OK, Alonso had problems while downshifting and the way he was able to drive around it was great but nothing like what Schumi & Senna did.
(you know I don't defend Schumi easily...)

Come on, Webber doesn't suck (and you know it )...
He had an amazing quali and his race was good. He missed a spot at the start but he missed it to a Vettel who had a great start. Other than that, he didn't do anything wrong.

M758

My point entirely!

M758

Yes I don't know. I am speculating. It is what all of us are doing since none of us know what exactly happend. Only the Ferrari team is in position to know. Even now they may not know for sure. Given how secretive F1 is we will probably never get the full story.


However it is fair to assume that there is strong connection between the engine failure and the gearbox probelm. One reason I feel it could be a mechical over rev is if happen right in the same spot the gearbox was acting up. Right as the car slowed you see the white smoke. Engines rarely let go when you are not on the throttle. Given the down change probelms is seems quite plausible that the gearbox may have gone to 1st gear or something and spun the motor to 25k and that caused it to pop. Maybe not. I don't have the data to know for sure, but I do feel like I can speculate and guess. It seems also very clear to me that there is not the design margin in a F1 car to run a full race with bad downchanges and not have some other component be overstressed and fail especially when the driver is going all out. Again it is possible I am wrong, but it sure seems likely that they are related. I would saw 80 to 90% chance.

gums

I don't think it was an over-rev. It happened at the slowest corner, and when he was off throttle. You see sparks coming out of the rear mid-corner, still braking, then oil smoke which changes to steam as he powers out.

A.Wayne

Fantastic that Schumacher's slow pace is helping out the back markers. Does this mean Alguersuari will now slant the car and chop at the start ?



By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, April 6th 2010, 09:34 GMT


Jaime Alguersuari has thanked Michael Schumacher for giving him the race-craft knowledge that helped him earn his maiden Formula 1 points in Malaysia.

The Scuderia Toro Rosso driver took the first points of his career with a strong drive in Sepang on Sunday - and believes that it was the understanding he got from racing Schumacher wheel-to-wheel in Australia that helped him deliver this time out.

"Definitely," Alguersuari told AUTOSPORT when asked if the Schumacher lessons had helped him in Malaysia.

"Michael showed me the way to drive a Formula 1 car on the limit, with other drivers. This was very important. To finish the Australian Grand Prix and to fight against him showed me the way - like how to be aggressive with other people.

A.Wayne

I agree with the Finn, It would be like being impressed with Kimi getting 1 WRC point after wrecking 20 cars ..

Speed team - Impressed
Ferrari - Impressed
Alonso - Impressed
Rest of the F1 fraternity - Impressed

Finn and Joe - not impressed , case closed .........


PS: Leigh Diffey should be on every F1 broadcast ARE YOU LISTENING SPEED..

Flying Finn

FYI, after 3 races, Kimi has 4 points and is in 12th position in standings.

He's the 2nd driver in history to score points both in Formula 1 & Rally World Championship. The other guy who did it before him was Carlos Reutemann in early '80s.

A.Wayne

I don't see the big deal here Finn, I'm not impressed ...........

PPo

+1... totally agree

multi21

Obsessed Much??? Schumi will forever be in your head, renting empty space....

The Toro Rossos are no dogs, obviously not on par with the RBR, but not dogs either. Buemi and Algi, held off Massa for the first stint of that race too, let's not forget that. Don't let the fact get in the way of a good story..

MJSpeed

I completely agree with the highlighted (bold) comments above.

The rest is just speculation that sounds logical.