Does USF1ASCO have their cars ready?
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Last I checked, Peter Windsor has a bit of an across the pond accent. Maybe the Europeans have little room to laugh. The cost to enter F1 is more prohibitive than it has to be and Bernie E. likes it that way.
If I didn't have so many years invested in following F1 from the States, I would just say screw the soap opera that it has become and I would just watch U.S. based sports car racing, like ALMS and Grand Am, which I already follow. These series are far more accessible to fans, feature great drivers, like Leh and David Donahue, who grew up a stones throw from my house, and offer great wheel to wheel action, unlike the parade that has become F1.
If I didn't have so many years invested in following F1 from the States, I would just say screw the soap opera that it has become and I would just watch U.S. based sports car racing, like ALMS and Grand Am, which I already follow. These series are far more accessible to fans, feature great drivers, like Leh and David Donahue, who grew up a stones throw from my house, and offer great wheel to wheel action, unlike the parade that has become F1.
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Last I checked, Peter Windsor has a bit of an across the pond accent. Maybe the Europeans have little room to laugh. The cost to enter F1 is more prohibitive than it has to be and Bernie E. likes it that way.
If I didn't have so many years invested in following F1 from the States, I would just say screw the soap opera that it has become and I would just watch U.S. based sports car racing, like ALMS and Grand Am, which I already follow. These series are far more accessible to fans, feature great drivers, like Leh and David Donahue, who grew up a stones throw from my house, and offer great wheel to wheel action, unlike the parade that has become F1.
If I didn't have so many years invested in following F1 from the States, I would just say screw the soap opera that it has become and I would just watch U.S. based sports car racing, like ALMS and Grand Am, which I already follow. These series are far more accessible to fans, feature great drivers, like Leh and David Donahue, who grew up a stones throw from my house, and offer great wheel to wheel action, unlike the parade that has become F1.
You can watch all racing you want (I watch many different forms from Grand-Am to WRC to ALMS MotoGP to Motocross to Formula 1) but there's no need to blame FIA ot Formula 1 for this circus, it was all 100% USF1ASCO's doings and FIA & Formula 1 were actually FAR MORE accommodating with USF1ASCO's bull**** that what they should've been.
I'm mad because to a point I believed their bull**** too and was hopeful that it would've been real.
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Lothar, Peter is a Brit but this whole thing was to be an American team from the name to the drivers etc. so that's why rest of the World is "laughing" (if they are). And it's not because it was an American effort, it's because how messed up the whole thing was.
You can watch all racing you want (I watch many different forms from Grand-Am to WRC to ALMS MotoGP to Motocross to Formula 1) but there's no need to blame FIA ot Formula 1 for this circus, it was all 100% USF1ASCO's doings and FIA & Formula 1 were actually FAR MORE accommodating with USF1ASCO's bull**** that what they should've been.
You can watch all racing you want (I watch many different forms from Grand-Am to WRC to ALMS MotoGP to Motocross to Formula 1) but there's no need to blame FIA ot Formula 1 for this circus, it was all 100% USF1ASCO's doings and FIA & Formula 1 were actually FAR MORE accommodating with USF1ASCO's bull**** that what they should've been.
My point of comparing F1 to other forms of racing is that some of what the FIA and Bernie E. have instituted has done nothing to enhance competition on the track.
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I'm not blaming the FIA for USF1's problems. Peter and Ken knew that it was a tall mountain to climb before they started their effort. However, F1 has been a soap opera over the past few years, with crazy rule changes, bizarre penalties, and clear favoring of certain teams. A substantial cost of participating in F1 can be indirectly attributed to the greed of one Bernie E. Add Max Mosely's behavior both as FIA president and away from racing and you have a regular three ring circus.
My point of comparing F1 to other forms of racing is that some of what the FIA and Bernie E. have instituted has done nothing to enhance competition on the track.
My point of comparing F1 to other forms of racing is that some of what the FIA and Bernie E. have instituted has done nothing to enhance competition on the track.
Certainly F1 has grazyness and Bernie for sure has greed but overall F1 is still very popular form of motorsport, the most popular in the World so Bernie certainly has been and is doing something right.
None of the other motorsports you mentioned don't come even close. I mean, not even in a same ballpark, Country or even same Globe, they're so far back, even NASCAR which is super popular in US is waaaaayy back of F1 in Global popularity so there's still something to F1 that attracts fans.
look at the number of people who follow Grand-Am, Alms or even mighty NASCAR, combine all of those and multiple by 10 and you might be somewhere near F1...
And by the way, FIA has really nothing to do with Bernie or F1 directly and there are plenty of other forms of motorsport FIA does (WRC, Le Mans, FIA GT etc.)
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At this stage, it looks like StephanGP is out too.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/3/10484.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/3/10484.html
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I hate to say it, but in spite of all the advocates early on, the first time I saw the shops, I knew it was over.
I've been involved with skunk works projects and USF1 was definitely not setup like one.
#43
They won't hold a spot for them for sure. But I think the open spot wouldn't be given to them even if they got their sheet together by then as punishment...plus Bernie's dislike for all things North American to boot...
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I don't feel too bad about Stefan GP. I don't think they were very confidence-inspiring either. Hell, they didn't even have a tire supplier until the other day, I can only imagine what the rest of their organization is...
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And their reasoning of course was that instead of spending money on fancy offices etc., they're focusing on car development... What a joke.
And of course FIA's announcement that Stefan GP is not accepted in because it's too late for that is another "nice" fuckup Anderson & Windsor have done, I'm sure there aren't too many in F1 circles who likes them and for a reason.
I have no doubt Bernie & FIA have told them to stop fucking everyone and get lost forever.
And it's not because Bernie doesn't like US, he would love US to have more interested in F1 and US team would've been a great way to grow that interest but the reality is there isn't much interest here, it's NASCAR and then some little for others (Grand-Am, ALMS etc.).