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Old 02-01-2010, 10:15 PM
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Just my opinion but the lighter the car the more fun to drive. So going GTS2 would require a ton of ballast. I think it's a natural fit in GTS3.
Old 02-01-2010, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by good hands
Just my opinion but the lighter the car the more fun to drive. So going GTS2 would require a ton of ballast. I think it's a natural fit in GTS3.

Me too. My car would fit well into GTS3 if I put slicks on.
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Originally Posted by good hands
Just my opinion but the lighter the car the more fun to drive. So going GTS2 would require a ton of ballast. I think it's a natural fit in GTS3.
Same here. I have no desire to race a car near stock weight. I would much rather race a lighter car if possible. Heavy cars put more wear on the chassis and tires. Plus racing a Porsche (any Porsche) is about nimble handling. The lighter the car the better the handling so why bother weighing it down? I found it amazing how much more sharp the lowly 944 NA became once I took out 300 oto 400lbs. Transformed the car. I would expect the same from the boxster.

Personally If running in GTS2 means lots of ballast or running GTS3 means never being close on power/weight... i would swap the motor to a 2.7 (ditch the hp!) or go fiberglass to bring weight down to be ok in GTS3. Which one I chose depends on my racing budget.
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Started some stripping last night, I put the car on the scales as somewhat stock, it has wheels, different muffler, stereo ,etc and it weighed in at 2804 lbs. after I stripped a little it was at 2630. There is still lots more to come out but then I will still have to add back in a top,rollcage, harnesses, fire system etc.
I will update as it progresses.
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I say 2 for my own selfish reasons.
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Originally Posted by Greg Smith
I say 2 for my own selfish reasons.
Registration for Cresson should open in a couple of days. Are we finally going to see your name on the roster?
Old 02-11-2010, 09:18 AM
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Definitely a GTS 3 car. If you like to travel, the Great Lakes region has a healthy supply of GTS 2 & 3 cars that are very quick. Mid Ohio - April 10-12th is the season opener. Come on up!
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I say GTS3 as well. My car pushes 227 rwhp and is quite competitive in GTS3 in the SE. Car is a bit slower at top speed but better under braking and cornering than some of the heavier M3's I run against.
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My big problem is that as a team we already have a GTS3 car, and 1st & 2nd place doesn't as nice as 1st & 1st place.
So do I make this something else other than GTS3, or bump the other car up a class and make the Boxster a GTS3.
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
My big problem is that as a team we already have a GTS3 car, and 1st & 2nd place doesn't as nice as 1st & 1st place.
So do I make this something else other than GTS3, or bump the other car up a class and make the Boxster a GTS3.
Seems like the answer is a lower power GTS2 boxster. 2.7L Keep all the S goodies and lower the power to stay under the limit. You may also want to think what is the best for marketing and attracting newer guys.

The other option is to bump that 911 GTS3 car to GTS4. Or you could try to run the boxster in GTS4 as super build.
Old 02-11-2010, 12:25 PM
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Just thinking out loud here. If the 911 is a competitive and complete GTS3 I would not alter it or spend money building that. I would concentrate effort and money on the one car you are already building. How much is a 2.7? I don't think they are much. Keep all the S stuff and drop the power? Is there a way to drop power on the existing engine. I hear tell that a lot of M3 guys use restrictors to power down but an added benefit is that it ups torque (uh oh, did I start TQ vs HP again?). I'm not a mechanic so I don't know the specifics on how they do it.

One thing I have experienced while running my 86 911 as a GTS 2 is that the post 1990 BMW's (any variety of 3 series including M) have MUCH MUCH better brakes. I'll admit to not being the best guy on the brake pedal but those Bimmers only a few years newer have a very big advantage there. The Boxster, particularly with S brakes, could easily match the BMWs.

Just my $.02

You have an opportunity to build a killer car for any class you want. I'd do that rather than start taking apart the 911.
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
My big problem is that as a team we already have a GTS3 car, and 1st & 2nd place doesn't as nice as 1st & 1st place.
So do I make this something else other than GTS3, or bump the other car up a class and make the Boxster a GTS3.
Hey now! I thought we agreed that I get one season to win a tire or two.

I vote for keeping the Boxster in GTS-2!!
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Originally Posted by Streak
Is there a way to drop power on the existing engine.
It would be really easy to re-flash the ECU to limit top end HP, and still keep all of the torque.
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