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Old 01-31-2010, 08:50 PM
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OK who's going to put a Cayenne motor in a 944?
Old 01-31-2010, 08:59 PM
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Larry, check out Dec/Jan Race Engine technology mag, article about the cayenne engine built by Ethan Bregman, Ayton Performance. page 8.
Old 01-31-2010, 09:35 PM
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Big difference. The Kremer car's chassis was based on a Porsche chassis, whereas the Riley is not. Also the engine was a 935 derived engine where as the Cayenne was developed by some of the racing department's engineers, but there is a big difference as their engineering targets were for a street motor and it was not developed in international racing series.
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porsche v-8=shape of things to come.
Old 01-31-2010, 09:55 PM
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porsche v-8=shape of things to come.
I think that until it's in a 911 they're not going to want to talk about it. They won't even talk about racing Cayman's let alone winning with an SUV engine.
Old 01-31-2010, 09:57 PM
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They've already put out a PR release on the #9 24 Hour win on the Porsche Facebook site. When we won our class at Sebring in '95 the Porsche execs are in our Victory Lane podium picture even though we weren't a Porsche according to them as we were a Fabcar chassis and Motec Engine Management System which used Porsche power, and suspension, and body, and dash...well you get the idea. Once we won we were suddenly a Porsche, but still didn't get any help from them.
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Originally Posted by chrisp
I think that until it's in a 911 they're not going to want to talk about it. They won't even talk about racing Cayman's let alone winning with an SUV engine.
It would be really cool if someone figures out how to put the Cayenne V8 in a Cayman race car!

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Am I remembering the Lozanos from supplying Chevy race engines for Trans-Am, etc. in the '80's and '90's? In any case, great to see. Love how American ingenuity takes Porsche off-the-shelf to the next level (and beyond). Where would Porsche be, but for the North American racers and tuners, tweaking and enhancing things?
Old 01-31-2010, 11:53 PM
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^ you are correct re Lozano Bros.
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This is the blurb and photo from the Porsche pages on Facebook --

Porsche – the official page Number 9 Action Express Porsche powered Riley wins the Rolex 24 at Daytona, numbers 67 and 66 TRG 911 GT3 Cup cars finish second and third in GT.
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Cayenne V8 wins Rolex 24? Porsche is on Facebook?
What's next- a woman in the Whitehouse?!
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Congrats for all Pcars, love to see you racing and winning.
Does porsche have any plans to bring new chassis to proto classes, or just putting all the effort to cup cars? Somehow gt-cars feels nicer, so I don't feel ashamed if car in non-porsche chassis wins. Then again, it should at least be Porsche supported/tuned team if company wants to take credit. It leaves abit stupid feeling if they won't give any support but like to reap up all the fame. Simple rule should be, you're either in or out - give the money, and enjoy the potential benefits. nice and clear. unfortunately, such is not reality.
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Porsche will celebrate this win and take some light off a three rotor Mazda whipping GT3's. I am pretty upset about the GT loss but the Mazda team did everything right.
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Originally Posted by inverterman
Porsche will celebrate this win and take some light off a three rotor Mazda whipping GT3's. I am pretty upset about the GT loss but the Mazda team did everything right.
The Mazda's are STAGE II cars!
Nothing in common with a road going version. Not even the same chassis.

Anyway, running out of fuel when you are laps ahead, is not a good strategy for a win.
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Originally Posted by RSA333
The 1995 winner of the Daytona 24 hours was an independent Porsche 935/76 F6 TurboLM WSC entered by Kremer Racing and driven by Giovanni Lavaggi, Jürgen Lässig, Marco Werner and Christophe Bouchut.

How was this win different? And to suggest that this was a Cayenne engine is a bit of a farce. It was originally designed for racing as a V8, then repurposed for use in the Cayenne.
Some history major please correct me, but that year the "factory" entry with the Andrettis withdrew after the sanctioning body reduced the allowed boost and Porsche said they couldn't win, only to have the non-official Kremer entry win. Sometimes all the engineering and strategy answers don't point to actually running the race, Porsche just won't do that and in both instances they ended up with egg on their face.
And the Cayenne based V8 is indeed based on the production engine with minimal changes to the base parts, that's how Grand Am rolls. I looked at that engine for a DP program a few years ago, and Porsche was VERY against it, saying its cg was too high, block unstable, etc. That is all probably true, but Grand Am controls the rulebook which is really the only thing that matters (and likely frustrates the heck out of the guys at Weissach). George Breuer is probably talking to himself this morning...


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