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Old 01-14-2010, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Astroman
Or why not create an "SP1" for the 2.5s and "SP2" for the 2.7s just like the 944 spec classes.
944 spec has only the 2.5L cars and is only one class SP1 and SP2 are creations of PCA. SP1 cars in PCA are NASA 944 spec prep. SP2 cars use a different prep standard (multiple infact) and it not really a spec class, but and equalized class.

Frankly I think keeping it to only 2.5's is good. Fewer variables to deal with and I believe the supply of 2.5's is still good. The made a ton of them.
Old 01-14-2010, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Werkstatt
" i dont want to be a secretary."

Don't let Costa see that comment, he might ram ya up the butt!
Scott (or anyone) - I read on the Specbox site that the 6 point of contact cage rule is going to be changed (relax, not asking about front towers). Are the 2010 rules out yet? Bracketing to the A-Pillars would go over the 6 points, no?
Old 01-14-2010, 11:18 AM
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Gary,
The rules are posted on www.boxsterspecracing.org .
Old 01-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Werkstatt
" i dont want to be a secretary."

Don't let Costa see that comment, he might ram ya up the butt!
Some times I was I could just get a litle respect
Old 01-14-2010, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Out West the SB's are 3 seconds faster per lap at Willow Springs. In the NASA Nationals, the lone SB running in GTS2 was 6 seconds faster than the top 944 spec, and 3.5 seconds faster than the top 944 in GTS1.....
Miller and Willow both are tracks that can take advantage of the extra HP. Also The top GTS1 car at Miller was in fact the 2nd place 944 spec car and took out ballast and threw on some Hoosiers. Hardly a fully prepped GTS1 car. However still enough to win GTS1.

The other thing is best lap times in the 944 spec race were 1-2 seconds off the real best times. That was due to the constant 5 way battle for the lead in the class.

As a comparison at my local track PIR we had a spec boxster show up and he was only 1 to 1.5 seconds faster than the best 944 spec. In fact if he did not push he was slower than the best 944 spec.
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Roll cage rule,
This is a tough one, yes you can but you also need to look at what group you are racing with, tying to frame or B pillar used to hose the car in SCCA? I don't know about now because the car is not very competative in SCCA. The way rules are changing it's not worth it. Always look at the ability to resell and future markets down the road.



Roll Cages
Roll cages are required and may be of weld-in or bolt-in type. Cages must have a minimum of six connection points to the chassis. Typical connection points are (4) at the base of the main roll cage and (2) at the rear shock towers. Attaching to the windshield frame or B pillar is allowed. (*If you plan on racing your BSR in other production classes, please review the cage attachment rules for that class. More than 6 attachments points and the location of the attachment points may bump the car into an unplanned for class).

Each mounting plate shall not be greater than 100 square inches and shall be no greater than (12) inches or less than (2) inches on a side. Mounting plate material must be a minimum .080” thickness cold rolled steel. Any portion of the cage that could come into contact with the driver’s helmet must be covered with high-density foam with a minimum thickness of .75”.

Minimum Roll Bar Tubing Sizes: Mild Steel: 1.75” X .095 or 1.5 X .120 wall Alloy Steel 1.50” X .095” wall

Approved Bolt-in Roll cages: Safety Devices Part # SD-P986 AutoPower Part# TBD

Welded-in roll cages are recommended.Cage question
Old 01-14-2010, 11:31 AM
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Thanks Scott, I think I was looking at the "UnOfficial" BS page and they had the 2009 rules. Could care less about SCCA, as long as PCA and NASA rules are met there will be more racing than I can stand within a 6 hour tow from me..
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That's the way we looked at it.



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