What is the allure of the SPBox class?.....
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What is the allure of the SPBox class?.....
First Tim, then Charlie, now Gary.........
Can someone explain to me why this class is so appealing?.......
Can someone explain to me why this class is so appealing?.......
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Deep fields (at least in SoCal), close contests, and it is relatively less expensive than other types of Porsche racing. At least that is what they tell me.
Now, CaymanSpec racing, that will be fun.
Cheers,
Now, CaymanSpec racing, that will be fun.
Cheers,
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even with a small grid, 4 cars in nor cal, the competition is tight. we were bumper to bumper much like spec miata at button willow race way last year. the GT class car were usually 1 car length apart. we were riding each other's bumpers.
the cars are very similarly prepped so if you screwed up one bit, you will never catch up unless you pressure the guy in front and make him screw up.
cheap. compared to running my GT3 street car, it's almost like free.
so.... i guess i shouldn't have sold my car...
the cars are very similarly prepped so if you screwed up one bit, you will never catch up unless you pressure the guy in front and make him screw up.
cheap. compared to running my GT3 street car, it's almost like free.
so.... i guess i shouldn't have sold my car...
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From an outsider's POV, I would think the expendability, massive number of cheap donor cars available, tires that cost a fraction of Hoosiers and last longer, well-balanced chassis, entire sets of wheels costing what one custom 80s 911 race wheel costs, replacement engines that cost half an air-cooled rebuild....should I go on? It will be interesting to see what kind of longevity the drivetrains have.
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From an outsider's POV, I would think the expendability, massive number of cheap donor cars available, tires that cost a fraction of Hoosiers and last longer, well-balanced chassis, entire sets of wheels costing what one custom 80s 911 race wheel costs, replacement engines that cost half an air-cooled rebuild....should I go on? It will be interesting to see what kind of longevity the drivetrains have.
#9
Trying to equalized different motors is problematic. For Spec Miata they change the rules every year and one or the other gets an advantage for that year.
Also, there track dependencies, some are more technical and advantage goes to the lighter car, others are power tracks and advantage goes to the higher torque car. Never seems to be equal.
Keep the class as simple as possible.
Also, there track dependencies, some are more technical and advantage goes to the lighter car, others are power tracks and advantage goes to the higher torque car. Never seems to be equal.
Keep the class as simple as possible.
#10
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I have the first SPBOX logged car by PCA in March 08, after two years of racing I am still impressed with the platform. The boxscar is within 2-3 seconds of my RSA on Hoosiers anywhere but Road America type tracks and is as fast as all but the fastest Euro SCs in Texas and surrounding states. Operating budget is 30% of the RSA, not kidding, and the Toyo contingency throws some potential gravy on the weekend. Cars are easy to drive and still less expensive to repair than any aircooled option and there are more used parts sitting than there are SC types in existence.
The question may be, why am I still racing a platform that is more expensive to race while the SPBOX on 12+ cycles on cheap tires is having as much fun, or in my case, more fun than ever. I still have the RSA and track it regularly for fun, however wheel to wheel in the SPBOX is the most fun I have had in 7 years of PCA Club Racing.
The question may be, why am I still racing a platform that is more expensive to race while the SPBOX on 12+ cycles on cheap tires is having as much fun, or in my case, more fun than ever. I still have the RSA and track it regularly for fun, however wheel to wheel in the SPBOX is the most fun I have had in 7 years of PCA Club Racing.
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i am sure eventually 2.7L will be included with wt penalty. there have been talk of such.... it's a matter of time. but as wreck me otter said, it creates variables. i understand the serious SM racers often have both 1.6 and 1.8 cars depending on track... so BSR guys may need both 2.5 and 2.7 cars :-)
#13
If Dan's your guy, and a great guy he is, than have him build you one of those "Connecticut stock" ones, go drive the crap out of it and you'll see what the allure is. They really are just fun to drive and obviously the competition is going to be top notch.
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What makes spec boxster so appealing is the same thing that makes 944 spec so appealing. However the boxsters are newer and a little faster. They do cost more than the 944, but are 10-15 years newer.