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I am also looking for sway bars for my '85 911. I am looking for a through body front and rear (Tarret, Smart, etc). Contact me and let me know what you have. Other suggestions?
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I've got Smart Racing Products sway bars on my car. The only down side is that the rears hang pretty low. This was an issue at Laguna Seca where I consistently scraped them on the track on a couple of corners. The up side is they of high quality and you can change bars.
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Make sure you reinforce or replace the stock rear sway bar mounts. They will eventually break.
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Yep, Smart Racing sways are great. Use the Wevo reinforcements if possible but be sure the bar clears your transmission mount. I had to relocate from the original angle a few degrees to get clearance.. If the stock mounts turn out to work you can reinforce them (box them in welding heavier steel to the frame) and save a few bucks.. works fine, that's how it was done before Wevo..
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While I've always admired the smart/tarret bars for their machining beauty and adjustment ease, if however you're a "set it and forget it" type, the cheaper weltmeisters will work fine too, imho.
What size bars are you looking for?
What size bars are you looking for?
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racer,
Current wisdom has it that t-bar cars of the SC/Carrera variety need much larger bars than the /Weltmeister. I have 22mm Weltmeisters front and rear. I think 31F/27R is the preferred setup.
If you want to go all-out, contact Brad Roberts. He makes a blade bar setup with in-cockpit adjusters. Very slick.
Current wisdom has it that t-bar cars of the SC/Carrera variety need much larger bars than the /Weltmeister. I have 22mm Weltmeisters front and rear. I think 31F/27R is the preferred setup.
If you want to go all-out, contact Brad Roberts. He makes a blade bar setup with in-cockpit adjusters. Very slick.
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I have the Weltmeisters as well and am wondering, if you don't already have your 22mm bars at the tightest setting, what does going to larger bars do for you? Is a larger bar at a soft setting not the same as a smaller bar at a tight setting?
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Chris,
Even with the 23/31 t-bar setup, we would get a lot of body roll without any swaybars. With 22s full-tight front and 3/4 tight rear, i can still feel quite a bit of roll and slow transitions (L-R & R-L). I am guessing that with thicker sways, you would futher-limit body roll, lessening camber loss through turns. The down-side is that sway bars steal traction from the outside tire and add it to the inside tire.
I talked with Brad about this at length at the VIR race in June. Apparently there are much thicker t-bars available also. 26mm front can fit in the A-arms, not sure about rear. Can you say "go-cart"?
Even with the 23/31 t-bar setup, we would get a lot of body roll without any swaybars. With 22s full-tight front and 3/4 tight rear, i can still feel quite a bit of roll and slow transitions (L-R & R-L). I am guessing that with thicker sways, you would futher-limit body roll, lessening camber loss through turns. The down-side is that sway bars steal traction from the outside tire and add it to the inside tire.
I talked with Brad about this at length at the VIR race in June. Apparently there are much thicker t-bars available also. 26mm front can fit in the A-arms, not sure about rear. Can you say "go-cart"?
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I too have the Smart Racing "anti-roll" bars, sizes 31 and 27. However, they're sold as "No. 31" and "No. 27"... not 31mm and 27mm. They're huge bars but I wonder if they're not measured in millimeters... Plus they're hollow.
Is a No. 31 bar 31 millimeters??
EDIT: I answered my own question... The SRP catalog says a No. 31 bar is 1.25 inches which equals 31.7 millimeters. Damn that's big.
Is a No. 31 bar 31 millimeters??
EDIT: I answered my own question... The SRP catalog says a No. 31 bar is 1.25 inches which equals 31.7 millimeters. Damn that's big.
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Thanks guys, all good stuff. I need to figure out what Mark (builder) thinks and I will then see what you all think.
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Chris,
Even with the 23/31 t-bar setup, we would get a lot of body roll without any swaybars. With 22s full-tight front and 3/4 tight rear, i can still feel quite a bit of roll and slow transitions (L-R & R-L). I am guessing that with thicker sways, you would futher-limit body roll, lessening camber loss through turns. The down-side is that sway bars steal traction from the outside tire and add it to the inside tire.
I talked with Brad about this at length at the VIR race in June. Apparently there are much thicker t-bars available also. 26mm front can fit in the A-arms, not sure about rear. Can you say "go-cart"?
Even with the 23/31 t-bar setup, we would get a lot of body roll without any swaybars. With 22s full-tight front and 3/4 tight rear, i can still feel quite a bit of roll and slow transitions (L-R & R-L). I am guessing that with thicker sways, you would futher-limit body roll, lessening camber loss through turns. The down-side is that sway bars steal traction from the outside tire and add it to the inside tire.
I talked with Brad about this at length at the VIR race in June. Apparently there are much thicker t-bars available also. 26mm front can fit in the A-arms, not sure about rear. Can you say "go-cart"?