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View Poll Results: USF1 Driver Speculation - Who do you think should get a seat?
Marco Andretti
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Patrick Long
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Graham Rahal
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:05 PM
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It looks like this forum is pretty favorable to Patrick Long. As expected from a Porsche group.
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Originally Posted by Pete
Non US driver: Sato?
I wish...
Old 08-26-2009, 05:57 PM
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Lewis, you may get your wish. My take is that the driver will be someone who can bring huge bags of sponsorship money. Driving talent is secondary.

A pal of mine has a son who was a star in karting, won the Canadian and US championships. Went to Europe and discovered dad did not have enough money to campaign there. we are talking cubic dollars. In North America his budget was "only" 100K in spite of sponsorship from Rotax, (free motors with $600 spark plugs!), chassis builders etc.

He was invited to drive for the top Formula Atlantic team. The catch was that he was required to bring 1.25 million in sponsorship. Oops!

My gut is that the US F1 team will have to go a similar route.
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Montoya perhaps - NASCAR has made him an "american". Needs to go on a diet though
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Montoya perhaps - NASCAR has made him an "american". Needs to go on a diet though
They'd got to totally redesign the cockpit opening to let fat Juantoya slide into the car. Don't think there's enough lithium grease to help slide Mr. Tubby into an F1 chassis.
And then there's the total race weight to consider . . .
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Montoya perhaps - NASCAR has made him an "american". Needs to go on a diet though
JPM will be an easy choice and quick out of the box. However, I don't think he has the motivation to put the effort required in the F1 circus, nor to go on a diet...
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Originally Posted by ew928
They'd got to totally redesign the cockpit opening to let fat Juantoya slide into the car .

Worked for Nigel.
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Originally Posted by cgomez
JPM will be an easy choice and quick out of the box. However, I don't think he has the motivation to put the effort required in the F1 circus, nor to go on a diet...
Sorry for the OT...but awesome graphics on you car! Looks sweet! Also...great website! Thank you for the contribution and love the BBC commentary. Will be following it going forward....

Back on topic...I would love to see Long in the seat as he has the grace and a proven winner in his past performances. Plus I have a pic with him so would be nice to say I have a pic with a F1 Driver.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Lewis, you may get your wish. My take is that the driver will be someone who can bring huge bags of sponsorship money. Driving talent is secondary.

A pal of mine has a son who was a star in karting, won the Canadian and US championships. Went to Europe and discovered dad did not have enough money to campaign there. we are talking cubic dollars. In North America his budget was "only" 100K in spite of sponsorship from Rotax, (free motors with $600 spark plugs!), chassis builders etc.

He was invited to drive for the top Formula Atlantic team. The catch was that he was required to bring 1.25 million in sponsorship. Oops!

My gut is that the US F1 team will have to go a similar route.
I've seen this and I'm sure ltc has seen this since his kid did even more national karting.
Old 08-26-2009, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kfyork
The list is actually quite long of great possibilities..
Originally Posted by ltc
If USF1 has an 'unofficial' driver development programme, in 5 years or so I would expect Sage to be considered for a USF1 seat.
USF1 MUST have a driver development program, if they plan to someday have an American driver capable of winning in F1. Reaching that lofty goal will take time, and the drivers capable of getting there might not be from the current or even next generation, but from the one after that. As mentioned by others, young open wheel drivers need strong backing to bring them along, or else their careers will sputter.

Red Bull's development program first brought along drivers like Speed and Luizzi, but later produced Vettel. Too bad RB gave up on the American F1 driver program.

Speaking of American RB driver development, what if USF1 stole a top dirt track prospect like Cole Whitt? Of course he wouldn't be F1 ready for years, but he's got a good start.
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Originally Posted by Pete
I've seen this and I'm sure ltc has seen this since his kid did even more national karting.
And then reality, followed by depression, set in....

Hey, at least I got to see my son test a FBMW at Miller Motorsport Park at 15 yrs old.... just wish his mother had come out for that race/test.
Never in a million years did I ever think I would see something like that.

FBMW: $380K/season + expenses + travel + damage...figure you are over $500K before you even start thinking about anything. That is enough $ to probably go thru 8 years of college!

I was told that even VW TDI Cup racing is $45K entry fee + damages (no insurance...although they do just charge cost for parts and include free labor....$5,000 then $7500 then $12,500 out of pocket if you total the car I think....) + travel + expenses....

In the end, you are correct.
It isn't about talent, or a team owner 'taking a flyer on a kid', it's all about paid drives, even at the 'kid' level.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
A pal of mine has a son who was a star in karting, won the Canadian and US championships. Went to Europe and discovered dad did not have enough money to campaign there. we are talking cubic dollars. In North America his budget was "only" 100K in spite of sponsorship from Rotax, (free motors with $600 spark plugs!), chassis builders etc.
He was invited to drive for the top Formula Atlantic team. The catch was that he was required to bring 1.25 million in sponsorship. Oops!
His first name wasn't Pierre Luc by any chance, was it?
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So what US companies have such deeeeeeeep pockets?
Google?
Microsoft?
Boeing?
(think the financial sector sunk their own boat and the car companies don't got the monies or dare)
Exxon/Mobil?
Not sure if the drug companies can pull off a Viagra F1 sponsorship.

If F1 wasn't so pricey an M&M F1 car would be hilarious.
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IIRC, it was discussed that the founder of Youtube has become an investor in USF1....I'm guessing those are substantial pockets.

Sir Richard Branson has substantial pockets as well, but has kept his sponsorship costs to Brawn GP very reasonable.
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Originally Posted by ltc
His first name wasn't Pierre Luc by any chance, was it?
Nope it was Chris Green. This was about 4 years ago.


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