What is the best and quickest way to learn car control?......
08-12-2009, 10:09 AM
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Everyone learns differently.
Snow is great.
Autocrossing is great.
Reading Speed Secrets is very great.
The hardest thing to do, though, is translate what you did in the snow or autocrossing at 15 to 30 MPH to turn 1 at Mid-Ohio or Watkins Glen at 80 - 100 MPH.
You need an intermediate step. You need to go out and find a corner at your favorite track that is relatively safe to overdrive and induce the slide. Something where the track is wide and you would have a hard time actually going off track. Something around 40 - 60 MPH. Get the car out of shape and recover.
I like turn 9 at Mid-O for that. You can even use the curbing on the inside of the corner to induce the slide.
Ed
Snow is great.
Autocrossing is great.
Reading Speed Secrets is very great.
The hardest thing to do, though, is translate what you did in the snow or autocrossing at 15 to 30 MPH to turn 1 at Mid-Ohio or Watkins Glen at 80 - 100 MPH.
You need an intermediate step. You need to go out and find a corner at your favorite track that is relatively safe to overdrive and induce the slide. Something where the track is wide and you would have a hard time actually going off track. Something around 40 - 60 MPH. Get the car out of shape and recover.
I like turn 9 at Mid-O for that. You can even use the curbing on the inside of the corner to induce the slide.
Ed
08-12-2009, 10:24 AM
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Street tires.
08-12-2009, 10:30 AM
#33
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It definitely depends on the region and site, but those are typical autocross speeds around here. Last weekend I was topping out third gear in the STi (~75mph) at two points on the course, and only had to drop to second gear (<40mph) at two other points on the course. That course was faster than normal, but it's not unusual for me to top out 2nd gear (~60mph) in the Porsche at least once on a "normal" course.
08-12-2009, 12:14 PM
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I am a firm believer of a skid pad........ hands down.......
Took the Skippy car control clinic and then jumped into my full race prepped 911........
So far.......3 years later the car is still intact......
(OK, I know you are all thinking that I am driving too slow......)
Any other way to improve car control skills?.........
Took the Skippy car control clinic and then jumped into my full race prepped 911........
So far.......3 years later the car is still intact......
(OK, I know you are all thinking that I am driving too slow......)
Any other way to improve car control skills?.........
Drive on a track that you know well...when it's wet !!!
08-12-2009, 03:00 PM
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There are no short cuts, seat time is the answer.Pro coaching as much as your budget will allow is a big help.
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08-12-2009, 04:22 PM
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Worn out track tires. Try to get your times close to what you have with good tires. You'll learn a lot.
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08-12-2009, 04:41 PM
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Everyone learns differently.
Snow is great.
Autocrossing is great.
Reading Speed Secrets is very great.
The hardest thing to do, though, is translate what you did in the snow or autocrossing at 15 to 30 MPH to turn 1 at Mid-Ohio or Watkins Glen at 80 - 100 MPH.
You need an intermediate step. You need to go out and find a corner at your favorite track that is relatively safe to overdrive and induce the slide. Something where the track is wide and you would have a hard time actually going off track. Something around 40 - 60 MPH. Get the car out of shape and recover.
I like turn 9 at Mid-O for that. You can even use the curbing on the inside of the corner to induce the slide.
Ed
Snow is great.
Autocrossing is great.
Reading Speed Secrets is very great.
The hardest thing to do, though, is translate what you did in the snow or autocrossing at 15 to 30 MPH to turn 1 at Mid-Ohio or Watkins Glen at 80 - 100 MPH.
You need an intermediate step. You need to go out and find a corner at your favorite track that is relatively safe to overdrive and induce the slide. Something where the track is wide and you would have a hard time actually going off track. Something around 40 - 60 MPH. Get the car out of shape and recover.
I like turn 9 at Mid-O for that. You can even use the curbing on the inside of the corner to induce the slide.
Ed
08-12-2009, 05:02 PM
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autocross is a good way to learn but man... 6 one-two-minute-ish runs for an entire day!
i have yet to find a club in my area that does this. if there was one, i'm there. 
08-12-2009, 06:31 PM
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So far I believe that in an ideal world the most beneficial and best bung for the buck/time for me would be:
1. A very wet skid pad with my racecar on worn out hoosiers...... once I feel comfortable there
2. Catch a rainy day on R6s at a track like T-bolt where there isn't too much to hit.......
3. Hire a professional racing coach (as soon as I hit the lottery)......
4. Join a karting league in the off-season.......
5. Keep on residing in the Boston area where snowy winters are pleintful.....
Autocross I tried once, but it is like golf, it takes forever........
I thank you all for your kind inputs.......
1. A very wet skid pad with my racecar on worn out hoosiers...... once I feel comfortable there
2. Catch a rainy day on R6s at a track like T-bolt where there isn't too much to hit.......
3. Hire a professional racing coach (as soon as I hit the lottery)......
4. Join a karting league in the off-season.......
5. Keep on residing in the Boston area where snowy winters are pleintful.....
Autocross I tried once, but it is like golf, it takes forever........
I thank you all for your kind inputs.......
08-12-2009, 06:43 PM
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I am already a man.....nothing to really prove there.......
But if you have any videos of yours showing how it is done......
I would be forever gratefull.......
But if you have any videos of yours showing how it is done......
I would be forever gratefull.......
