mji911

What is the best club racing?? The one thats most competitive, most seat time, and the best bang for your buck?? Is it PCA, NASA HSR PBOC or any other I might not have mentioned??

Circuit Motorsports

SCCA Spec Racer Ford. I may be a bit biased as I have one. But if you want to figure out how good you are at the club level then there is no better place. The car is a true Spec car unlike most of the other 'spec' series out there. It's the reason I'm there and not Spec Miata, Spec E30, etc.

Most seat time would be a vintage group like SVRA or PCA from what I've seen.

mji911

Another fellow who ran Spec ford racers said it was the most competitve and really taught him how to drive 10/10 all the time and the cost were reasonable.

Giacomo

I think that choice is very driver and region specific. It depends on car, class, budget, time, number of races you want to participate in per year and willingness to tow longer distances.

Do you want to drive Porsches? If not spec miata offers great racing at a fraction the cost. There are some regions where spec boxster offers great fields and competitive racing while in other it's non-existent.

Do you want to drive production cars or open wheel?

Do you want to drive in competitive, close wheel to wheel races? If so, look for a spec class in your region with good fields. Most would agree that the more even the cars (as in spec classes) the better the racing. But not everyone feels that way. When I was back in Canada I spoke to a friend who races a 650hp, 2400lb Vette, his logic was that if he could continue to build the car to turn 1:22 at Mosport (currently he's in the 1:26 range and ALMS GT2 times are just sub 1:20 ), he could drive just at 80% during the race and still win. His idea of racing is going as fast as he can but I don't know who he racing against.

I have friends that race vintage cars and there are huge discrepancies in lap times between cars but they seem to enjoy it.

Since it's all for fun, it really depends on what does it for you. Your avatar shows a cup car and perhaps others can tailor their comments to your vehicle.

Gary R.

You bored in GTC3 honey?

mji911

Variety is the spice of life as you well know

pdxjim

Spec Racer Ford is a sealed engine and transmission. In the Miata group, I hear of good, "spec" engine rebuilds costing $9K. Our rebuilds done by SCCA Enterprises are about $1700 and are dynoed to a certain window of HP.

Gary R.

You would have to have Julio do some work on one of those... maybe some lime green!

M758

In Arizona it is NASA Hands down.

PCA - great club, but only a few DE's and no racing
HSR - 1 event a year can't support anything
SCCA - Dying a slow death
PBOC - does not exist here


So for good racing, track time and fun NASA is the way to go. However I suspect this can be very regional in that some places NASA does not have the strength it does here.

Mark in Baltimore

LOL.

But does your wife know of this tenet?

Circuit Motorsports

Brand New 27,000. Used 17-22,000. No difference other than nicks and dings. Track record holder at VIR is the second one ever built so I'm told.
Engine rebuilds 3500. Brand new engine 5500.
Entire bodywork is 3000 but generally can be repaired unless you have a big oops.
The CSR (customer reps) are at most track events and have enough spares to rebuild your car 2 to 3 times.

At the June Sprints there are 65 racing this weekend. In years past there have been over 100.

Gary R.

What does the SRF schedule look like in the Northeast / Atlantic Coast in a typical year?

mji911

Where is the best suited race shop? And I assume that you can rent a ride for a weekend, Do you know what cost is? And what amount of seat time for an SCCA weekend?

Circuit Motorsports

So each SCCA region has a couple of CSR (officially sanctioned shops).

http://www.sccaenterprises.com/customer_service.html

The one near you is Motion Dynamics. I've only heard good things about them.

http://www.mdracing.com/

I'm gonna guess that rental is about 1000/day and that includes everything for the car and trackside support.

Typical double race weekend is setup

Sat 10 min practice, 20 minute qualify, 25-30 minute Sprint race
Sunday Warmup, qualify, Race

You can also run the car in most enduros. 12 hour Summit Point, 13 hours at VIR, 24 Nelson, etc.

Circuit Motorsports

If you really want you can find a race most every weekend. You might have to have a full day tow but between regional and national SCCA events as well as an enduro here and there you can keep yourself on track a LOT.

Here's the Northeast SCCA schedule

http://www.nescca.com/nescca_main/schedule.pdf

There are 11 races in the MARRS series which I can't find a good schedule for. It's a DC region based series so most of the races are near the DC area.

And here's the Southeast schedule which reaches up to VIR.

http://www.sedivracing.org/2009Schedule.pdf