View Poll Results: Who won the debate: MK (HP) or VR (Torque)
Mk won with a simple to understand concept that HP determines torque at the wheels at any speed.
25
17.48%
MK won: When comparing equal HP cars, the one with less torque COULD be better on the road course.
6
4.20%
VR won: When comparing equal HP cars, the one with more torque is better on a road course.
44
30.77%
Neither, as physics dont apply to race cars
18
12.59%
I don't want to open this can of worms again!
50
34.97%
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Poll: Who won the HP vs Torque debate?
03-19-2009, 04:31 PM
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03-19-2009, 05:50 PM
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1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.
03-19-2009, 06:18 PM
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BMW S54 has double VANOS (variable cams) and makes 330 hp. S52 engine in the E36's has single VANOS and makes 247 hp. I'm going on memory. Hope I've got that right. My Z3 M Coupe has the S52 but it will still scoot.
03-19-2009, 06:21 PM
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03-19-2009, 06:32 PM
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Come on 30 pages!
Did anyone here ever compete in American Gladiators in the 1980's?
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Did anyone here ever compete in American Gladiators in the 1980's?
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03-19-2009, 06:34 PM
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Dave, I could help by changing the forum default to fewer posts per page. Go to 40 pages easy!
03-19-2009, 06:35 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjm8reCCs8
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03-19-2009, 06:48 PM
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YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-19-2009, 06:55 PM
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03-19-2009, 06:55 PM
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YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Of course as I watch the video again I am thinking those Gladiators you were up against were much more powerful than you, and you were able to beat them with your quick rotation moves and force.
So torque is more important than power.
03-19-2009, 06:57 PM
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03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
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Ok Mark, since you have had so many wonderful examples to show your point how about this one ?
http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/vide...ic-Drag-Racing
The Corvette and the M3 for sure have more hp than the little Datsun, although the Datsun wins for sure in the torque department. Oh, and it also wins the races too.
Be sure to let me know what you think ?
Should we also discuss the torque multipling transmissions / differentials they both have ?
http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/vide...ic-Drag-Racing
The Corvette and the M3 for sure have more hp than the little Datsun, although the Datsun wins for sure in the torque department. Oh, and it also wins the races too.
Be sure to let me know what you think ?
Should we also discuss the torque multipling transmissions / differentials they both have ?