Hoosiers R6s........heat cycles......
03-12-2009, 09:49 AM
#31
Drifting
Since you have no R6s today and plan on running R6s at the limerock CR, you will have to buy 2 sets in case of emergency (ie major flat spot caused by a big lock up or spin out). You'll be in better shape this way for your first event, and you will be ready for your 2nd event in case you don't touch the 2nd set. Ideally you should also have 2 sets of matching wheels (size, weight, offset) to give you even more flexibility in case of emergency.
Fun stuff eh!
Last edited by FredC; 03-12-2009 at 11:54 AM.
03-12-2009, 06:31 PM
#33
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I am trying to understand why some people get more cycles out of a tire than others. I know that there are alot of parameters out there other than heat, i.e. length of the event, track condition, how sharp the track surface is, etc.
03-12-2009, 08:29 PM
#34
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This is a great question and one that was answered by Chris Cervelli two years ago. His answer is that, no, not all heat cycles are created equal. If you really push a tire, you can use its usable life even though plenty of tread remains.
03-12-2009, 10:28 PM
#35
Drifting
i just had a flash. Call Terry Gilvin at Hoosier. He is the R6 product manager. Post what he says Paolo.
03-12-2009, 10:35 PM
#36
I agree with Chris. If you can use more than one heat cycle for a set of Hoosiers, then you aren't pushing hard enough.
03-12-2009, 11:51 PM
#37
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I submit that if you have heat cycled a set of Hoosiers in one heat cycle, then maybe you're pushing too hard since the tires are operating outside of their maximum temperature range, which can hardly be good for optimal lap times.
03-12-2009, 11:52 PM
#38
If you don't have the feel to handle the LSD one could argue that you don't have the feel to handle Hoosiers. The fact that you say you spin a lot supports this conclusion (No offence intended).
Maybe it's time to go back to street tires for a while and develop your feel. Over-driving is not how you build speed. Being smooth as silk is the only way to go faster. When you can turn consistently smooth perfect laps, then go up to something like a Toyo R888 for a while. When you've mastered those, then try Hoosiers.
In the mean while, please don't hurt yourself or your car.
Maybe it's time to go back to street tires for a while and develop your feel. Over-driving is not how you build speed. Being smooth as silk is the only way to go faster. When you can turn consistently smooth perfect laps, then go up to something like a Toyo R888 for a while. When you've mastered those, then try Hoosiers.
In the mean while, please don't hurt yourself or your car.
03-13-2009, 01:25 PM
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Not to mention yourself...
Speaking of such, here's what happens when someone does that right in front of you. It put me right into the gravel trap on the start. It's a miracle that I could keep the car moving.
I think I went from 3rd to last back to 6th. There was so much gravel the car was shaking like the wheels were going to fly off. I needed a chisel to get the mud off the wheels.
See the series... In the last picture you can see the trail of gravel flying off the car.
http://www.driversmeeting.com/pcarroll/albums/55
Speaking of such, here's what happens when someone does that right in front of you. It put me right into the gravel trap on the start. It's a miracle that I could keep the car moving.
I think I went from 3rd to last back to 6th. There was so much gravel the car was shaking like the wheels were going to fly off. I needed a chisel to get the mud off the wheels.
See the series... In the last picture you can see the trail of gravel flying off the car.
http://www.driversmeeting.com/pcarroll/albums/55
03-13-2009, 01:32 PM
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otherwise it's like asking 'how much grip does my car have?'
telling you how our tires behave for us, on our cars, is akin to trying to explain sex to a virgin.
03-13-2009, 01:45 PM
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Not to mention yourself...
Speaking of such, here's what happens when someone does that right in front of you. It put me right into the gravel trap on the start. It's a miracle that I could keep the car moving.
I think I went from 3rd to last back to 6th. There was so much gravel the car was shaking like the wheels were going to fly off. I needed a chisel to get the mud off the wheels.
See the series... In the last picture you can see the trail of gravel flying off the car.
http://www.driversmeeting.com/pcarroll/albums/55
Speaking of such, here's what happens when someone does that right in front of you. It put me right into the gravel trap on the start. It's a miracle that I could keep the car moving.
I think I went from 3rd to last back to 6th. There was so much gravel the car was shaking like the wheels were going to fly off. I needed a chisel to get the mud off the wheels.
See the series... In the last picture you can see the trail of gravel flying off the car.
http://www.driversmeeting.com/pcarroll/albums/55
03-13-2009, 02:22 PM
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Paolo on my RS I get about a dozen heat cycles at DE. Racing they are toast after an hour of enduro. After a 30 minute sprint they go off about 1 second a lap adter 15 mins. So one set per race weekend makes sense. But why stop there. Michelin slicks are way faster.