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Old 02-09-2009, 12:49 PM
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Default Modified 13/13

Surprised noone has posted details on the modified 13 announced at sebring....anyone want to expand on it?
Old 02-09-2009, 01:03 PM
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Huh? I didn't see that in the proposed/adopted rule changes. Did it just come to be announced this past weekend?

I would really like to hear more about it since there was no PCA CR update through snail mail or email.
Old 02-09-2009, 02:40 PM
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It was announced at one of the driver's meetings by Bruce this weekend. In the case where it is a SINGLE CAR incident AND it is deemed to be a minor issue having resulted in damage, the driver will not get a 13/13.

So, for example, if you are cornering and make a slight over-correction that results in contact, the driver probably won't get a 13/13.

It saved a few people this weekend!!!!

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Old 02-09-2009, 02:41 PM
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'bout time
Old 02-09-2009, 02:46 PM
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Hopefully they'll roll this out at other races this year. Kudos to PCA...it's a great idea. Dinging your car during a single car incident is pain enough. You shouldn't have to go home too.
Old 02-09-2009, 02:50 PM
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I believe it was effective Friday, Feb. 6 (day one of Sebring) and will go all year. It's a one year test where they'll gather data and compare it to previous years and then make a decision for the future. I applaud them as well. Kudos the the club racing staff.
Old 02-09-2009, 02:57 PM
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Here, here. The one car incident 13 always bothered me.
Old 02-09-2009, 03:01 PM
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Ah, that makes 100% sense! Thanks for the explanations.
Old 02-09-2009, 03:04 PM
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Yeah,
Long over due. I had friend who back in 2001 in his first PCA club race in the first session went off and tapped a tire barrier. Yeah he mess up and was probably over excited. Stupid to push right away, but the damage was a 1 or 2" dent in the rear qtr and some white paint from the tires. Embarrising to say the least, but the ended his weekend before it even began. He was so upset he never raced PCA again.
Old 02-09-2009, 03:09 PM
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Well, since I've been on probation since my second lap at Daytona, I like this idea!
Old 02-09-2009, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PedroNole
It was announced at one of the driver's meetings by Bruce this weekend. In the case where it is a SINGLE CAR incident AND it is deemed to be a minor issue having resulted in damage, the driver will not get a 13/13.

So, for example, if you are cornering and make a slight over-correction that results in contact, the driver probably won't get a 13/13.

It saved a few people this weekend!!!!
Way to go, PCA, and thank you! This is an incredibly sensible evolution.

So, if a driver makes a single car error, will they give a pass to any damage or just minor damage?
Old 02-09-2009, 04:31 PM
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This sounds very, very smart.
Old 02-10-2009, 08:56 AM
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awesome, thank you Bruce and Bryan. Very sensible.
Old 02-10-2009, 09:23 AM
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Good move. Having worked Tech at more than a few club races I always though that the single car minor no rub off dinger 13 did not supress rash driving as intended.
Old 02-10-2009, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
Way to go, PCA, and thank you! This is an incredibly sensible evolution.

I agree. I never understood why you get punished twice for a single vehicle incident.

on the other side of the fence... while letting the occasional one car incident slide, what do you do about habitual offenders? Someone who frequently ends up off track with minor damage over the course of a weekend (or even over a few consecutive race weekends) is not driving with everyone's safety in mind.


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