Modified 13/13
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Great to hear! I'm sure as we (theoretically) have club races again out here, it will make it easier to attract cars from the PRC series. Where, historically, there has been next to no contact.
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I think the key is minor error, not minor damage.
I think that if you make a monumentally stupid mistake, or are blatantly wreckless, and luckily get away with minor damage, you should still be taken off the track.
I think that if you make a monumentally stupid mistake, or are blatantly wreckless, and luckily get away with minor damage, you should still be taken off the track.
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I agree. I never understood why you get punished twice for a single vehicle incident.
on the other side of the fence... while letting the occasional one car incident slide, what do you do about habitual offenders? Someone who frequently ends up off track with minor damage over the course of a weekend (or even over a few consecutive race weekends) is not driving with everyone's safety in mind.
on the other side of the fence... while letting the occasional one car incident slide, what do you do about habitual offenders? Someone who frequently ends up off track with minor damage over the course of a weekend (or even over a few consecutive race weekends) is not driving with everyone's safety in mind.
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This was the reasoning for the hit anything but the ground 13 as discribed to me. The idea was to keep you a bit better focused all the time. The downside was seeing it end a weekend when a car slid off and touched a tire in a sudden rain or dodged an on track mess only to smudge a tire wall and scratch the paint. Both were Sat a.m. 13s and weekend enders.
keeping in mind, i'm in favor of this change but as i understand it, this rule is still in trial. moral of the story, if you have one of those lucky offs where there is only minor damage. check yourself and drive well within your limits the rest of the weekend. perhaps they'll modify the rule to be similar to doing too many spins in a DE and they send you home. 'x' number of single car incidents and you get that 13...
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The new rule makes a lot of sense. Although I have been fortunate that none of my off-track excursions resulted in any contact, in some cases coming to a stop inches from the tire wall or barrier, each incident could easily have resulted in a 13.
Now if we could only get them to let us remove carpet in the stock classes...
Now if we could only get them to let us remove carpet in the stock classes...
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I'd like to see the rule grandfathered in to drivers from the last 6 months, I know of one person that cannot drive that really wants to drive with PCA but cannot because of a single car incident. PCA recently decided not to repeal his petition prior to sebring, which now seems unfair.
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i am currently in probation for a single car incident at TRAC 08. Is the change retroactive?
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Just to offer up a different view... if you are under control you should not have a single car incident. Other cars turn into us, or otherwise do weird things a lot, causing contact. But I don't remember having a tire wall jump out at me. My 13s were due to other cars doing unexpected things. FWIW
I do agree with the modification though.
I do agree with the modification though.
Last edited by analogmike; 02-11-2009 at 04:10 PM.