Spec boxster lap time
10-31-2008, 08:53 PM
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Here is the link to the spec boxster rules : http://www.boxsterspecracing.org/hom...on=BSR%20Rules
If he had ballast, it was a maximum of 75 pounds that he was dumping. I'm surprised that these cars can get down to 2650 pounds including driver and they need ballast to do it. God knows that I've been trying to figure out how to dump weight out of my boxster S, and it still weighs in at a hefty 2820 (without driver).
If he had ballast, it was a maximum of 75 pounds that he was dumping. I'm surprised that these cars can get down to 2650 pounds including driver and they need ballast to do it. God knows that I've been trying to figure out how to dump weight out of my boxster S, and it still weighs in at a hefty 2820 (without driver).
10-31-2008, 09:01 PM
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Here's a link to a recent discussion re getting down to 2650.
http://www.boxsterspec.com/index.php?showtopic=1230
I seem to recall other discussions on the same board re getting down the weight, but don't have a link handy.
http://www.boxsterspec.com/index.php?showtopic=1230
I seem to recall other discussions on the same board re getting down the weight, but don't have a link handy.
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10-31-2008, 09:18 PM
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10-31-2008, 09:21 PM
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As John previously stated we're on R888's unfortunately....
Next year we're lobbying to go to 245's on 8-1/2" rims up front versus the 225's on 7's we currently use. I've tested them and they're good for 2 seconds a lap at BW and WSIR...
Next year we're lobbying to go to 245's on 8-1/2" rims up front versus the 225's on 7's we currently use. I've tested them and they're good for 2 seconds a lap at BW and WSIR...
10-31-2008, 09:30 PM
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Yep, but I would imagine he dropped some ballast to run GTS3. My car is still ill and was down 30+hp (they pulled me for a dyno run after qualifying which made me feel better). We both were running 23s & 24s both races. I had a hard time getting by him as he pulled on the straight and between 9 &10. He finally left room in T6 and I squeeked by. You can check with Mylaps for the Summit Nasa Oct race and ask him how much ballast he was under (Steve Kwait).
Next year with our lighter weight and bigger front rims and tires I believe the Spec Boxster would be unbeatable in GTS2. Now if they only ran the series out West....
Classification With Non-D.O.T. Race Tires
GTS5 = 6.0 – 8.49
GTS4 = 8.5 – 10.99
GTS3 = 11.0 – 14.49
GTS2 = 14.50 – 18.49
GTS1 = 18.50 and higher
10-31-2008, 09:42 PM
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thanks jgordon!!!! that makes sence to me .... i compare all my times to my cup car times
10-31-2008, 10:27 PM
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10-31-2008, 10:40 PM
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I'm extremely surprised that the old 986 Boxster (I had one of those) is this fast.
I know how much faster the slicks are compared to A6/R6/R1/V710 and these ones against MPSC/R1/V700/R888, etc.
The 986 Boxster with that lack of power (something it doesn't have, not even the S) must be killing everything on the turns.
I ran 1:52 at Cal Speedway on RA-1 (first time at the track) with my 996 GT3. I always kept in mind a 3 secs gap per 60 secs of track time (on 18" Hoosiers) compared to a well driven 996 GT3 Cup on slicks. This difference was around 5 secs when the car was stock on the same tires (Hoosier). At Cal Speedway with better grip from Hoosiers and more seat time, I think I could run 1:50s with my old modified 996 GT3, 6 seconds behind John in his Cup.
My 996 GT3 was well prepared, and far from stock. A stock 996 GT3 on R888 could run no better than 1:54s at Cal Speedway (on average not so fast hands). This is just 5 secs behind John's time on the same tires on a track that rewards horsepower, and John is running with 1/2 the power of a stock 996 GT3.
At Laguna Seca, my best time (my only track day there) was a 1:42 on Toyo RA-1. That's barely 3 secs faster than John's Spec Cayman Cabriolet.
I'm extremely surprised...
I know how much faster the slicks are compared to A6/R6/R1/V710 and these ones against MPSC/R1/V700/R888, etc.
The 986 Boxster with that lack of power (something it doesn't have, not even the S) must be killing everything on the turns.
I ran 1:52 at Cal Speedway on RA-1 (first time at the track) with my 996 GT3. I always kept in mind a 3 secs gap per 60 secs of track time (on 18" Hoosiers) compared to a well driven 996 GT3 Cup on slicks. This difference was around 5 secs when the car was stock on the same tires (Hoosier). At Cal Speedway with better grip from Hoosiers and more seat time, I think I could run 1:50s with my old modified 996 GT3, 6 seconds behind John in his Cup.
My 996 GT3 was well prepared, and far from stock. A stock 996 GT3 on R888 could run no better than 1:54s at Cal Speedway (on average not so fast hands). This is just 5 secs behind John's time on the same tires on a track that rewards horsepower, and John is running with 1/2 the power of a stock 996 GT3.
At Laguna Seca, my best time (my only track day there) was a 1:42 on Toyo RA-1. That's barely 3 secs faster than John's Spec Cayman Cabriolet.
I'm extremely surprised...
11-01-2008, 12:20 AM
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Hey, if a stock D car can push a well prepared G car around a short track like Summit (with equal drivers) then I think a stock Boxster can beat a 996 Cup... but maybe i'm confused... 
11-01-2008, 12:24 AM
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At the last PCA TT a spec boxster was running the 2:07's although i'm not sure how good the driver was.
But that being said there are a couple guys here that run in the 1:37-1:38's consistently with near stock 6 GT3's on MPSC at LS. And i'm not sure if 1 days experience is a fair representation of what you and your previous car were cable of.
But that being said there are a couple guys here that run in the 1:37-1:38's consistently with near stock 6 GT3's on MPSC at LS. And i'm not sure if 1 days experience is a fair representation of what you and your previous car were cable of.
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11-01-2008, 01:21 AM
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POC's track record for a 996-GT3 w/MPSC's is 1:42.1 and that driver also runs a 6-cup in the high 1:33's. Of course we're also limited to 92 DBA...