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Old 08-19-2008, 07:32 PM
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Do rebound adjustments effect compressions adjustments and vice versa? What do compression adjustments do that is different than rebound?
Old 08-19-2008, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Lawyers, guns, and money. Or a bad attitude!
I guess I will just have to settle for going slow around the track, of course then I can see all the pretty Texas flowers at TWS.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
This is the sort of thing that Seth and I help with routinely when we do private coaching. Think about what Seth said above: if you soften front rebound, under hard throttle, the front will be more prone to lifting up and unweighting more quickly (all other things being equal). This will generally lead to understeer. By firming up front rebound, the front will not rise as fast under hard throttle, and thus you will have more front grip for a longer time.

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I *think* it makes sense. I get the idea, but I will need spend time thinking it throuhg to translate that to other places on the track. One though is I guess that the unloaded end is one where the rebound works most.

Ie - Acceleration puts load on the rear lifting the front so front rebound is critical and rear rebound has limited impact.
Whereas - braking and turn in puts load on the front lifting the rear so rear rebound is critical and front rebound has a minimal impact.
Old 08-19-2008, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by M758
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I *think* it makes sense. I get the idea, but I will need spend time thinking it throuhg to translate that to other places on the track. One though is I guess that the unloaded end is one where the rebound works most.

Ie - Acceleration puts load on the rear lifting the front so front rebound is critical and rear rebound has limited impact.
Whereas - braking and turn in puts load on the front lifting the rear so rear rebound is critical and front rebound has a minimal impact.
All true in a vacuum. However, also realize that compression settings affect how quickly the rear of the car squats under acceleration, and how the front dives under braking. Rear rebound affects how quickly the front loads up under hard braking, which is also affected by front compression. See? So they are all interrelated.

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Originally Posted by onefastviking
I need a cool title like you VR, what do I have to do to earn a Professional Driving coach and driver title ?
Earn it? He just throws it out there and you guys buy into it!
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Larry is a smart guy.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Larry is a smart guy.

How do I improve my lap time?
Old 08-19-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by amondc
How do I improve my lap time?
Well, we can start with this....


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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Earn it? He just throws it out there and you guys buy into it!
I thought it was just another of his jokes....a good one this time!
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BTW, when you get that rebound, etc. set up just right for that problem turn that you are likely thinking of, let us know how the car reacts in the 10 other, different turns on the track (just to add to the complexity).
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Tsk-tsk...Seth and I have many happy clients.
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Originally Posted by amondc
How do I improve my lap time?
Drove faster.
Old 08-19-2008, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Drove faster.
I was thinking less brakes but maybe just driving faster will work...


I am really suprised that smart *** VR didnt come back with "Get rid of the girls car and drive a real one"
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Originally Posted by amondc
I was thinking less brakes but maybe just driving faster will work...
Actually you are not off the mark here. Many drivers brake way too hard and ruin their entry speed. I have found that at just about every track that I have been to, there are really only a couple of places where you need to crush the brakes. Otherwise, a gentle press, even if a little longer will keep your car more balanced and allow for greater entry speeds.



How did we get so far
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Actually you are not off the mark here. Many drivers brake way too hard and ruin their entry speed. I have found that at just about every track that I have been to, there are really only a couple of places where you need to crush the brakes. Otherwise, a gentle press, even if a little longer will keep your car more balanced and allow for greater entry speeds.



How did we get so far
You are correct. Thats the biggest thing that I have had to re-learn going to the boxster from the cup car.

Oh yeah how should I set the rebound in my boxster? The rear end doesnt seem to rotate enough..?


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