RJay

Then, with all due respect my good friend, I think you missed the point. When it was too easy, did you move over to SCCA and go to nationals then? And win? Or is this stuff less about in class competition, and at least with PCA more about a platform around honing and refining a set of skills, which unlike DE is timed and therefore more objective.

If I have any skill or speed at all on track, 90+% of it came from this venue. The course I laid this past weekend had several corners demonstrably longer and faster than several at NHMS. You can call what we do an AX, but a 1.25 miles covered by the fastest cars in sub 1 minute laps at the last NCR event, I'd call it time trialing on our own personal playground. And that is fully by design. I've seen far too many blue/white drivers screw up an hit stuff, whom when asked, never attended our events. I've yet to see one of our hard core folks ever hit anything. I attribute that directly to the skills they've acquire at Devens.

Jay Gratton

Noel,
I just might do it! But I basically AX for a living with my job, so spending my day off AX is not high on my list. It is also expensive now and I can do a DE day for free since I am an instructor. But it is tempting!

Jay Gratton

Hey Ron,
I agree that the last few courses have been very "track" like. I agree that I should try SCCA AX, but I am getting into SCCA racing instead and that is my main focus. But I will try to drag Romanowski out of his hole and try and make it down to your next event. The 911 doesn't get driven on the track and it would probably like to be played with again.

George S

Jay, Romanowski was at the last NCR event...with his Mini Cooper. Come on down and watch MTosi.

Noel

Let's hope that is still the case in a few weeks at the Glen.

I have been autocrossing for the past 11 years, mainly in small parking lots in Ohio and to Ron's point, to call Devins (An old series of Amy Base Runways) an autocross is not exactly true. Time trial is definitely more appropriate. Very fast sweeping courses that regually exceed 1.24 miles in length. I hope was can continue to use it for years to come.

RJay

Yeah Jay, I didn't mean to suggest you needed to goto SCCA, just that from a PCA perspective (or at least my perspective) SCCA AX is a serious competition completely divorced from any real relationship with their road racing or rally venues. Whereas AX in PCA, certainly when we take what Devens offers us into account, the focus is far more around improving driving skills. For us, direct competition is more carrot than stick, and in my view, the program should reflect our desire to build a set of skills in the participants that can serve them well, be it on track tires or snow tires. In PCA in the NE, we really have only one true competitive event a year and thats Zone.

As an aside, I wonder if Mike P. will show at Zone this year or is he too far above us now that hes moving into the Pros. Its in your back yard this year Mr. P, you coming?

Jay Gratton

I was actually there as well. I was driving the BONE stock 914 with 165 tires on it with my wife. I was taking it easy on the old girl (the car, not the wife) and was entertaining myself with the massive body roll!!!!!! I spent more time in other people's cars instructing them then I did in my own car.

MTosi

I think my point was more, I just didn't need to let her drive my car. I made the mistake of volunteering it, she didn't ask.... I just figured it was a good excuse to go cruising around some back roads ....

Second you could refrain from making unfounded insults.....I think a few guys like schumacher, raikkonen, hamilton, showed karts relate an awful lot to cars....

also here are some more pictures (mostly poor quality but they are best I have for now, the person taking the photos certainly wasn't the worlds best photographer and they were using a terrible camera so I had to crop them so you can even see the car)-

Jarez Mifkin

Geez, now you're picking on volunteer camera men!! That car needs some bigger torsion bars, biggers sway bars, a strut brace, poly bushings, and an alignment. Go drive it after that work is done to it and report back to us.

MTosi

Your not kidding, but its not my car..... but I find its more fun to drive a car thats pretty much stock, they're slow but fun....

Bull

There you go again....sitting in the corner of the neighborhood bar all by yourself!

The first was a joke....so laugh!

The second???? Use another's pictures and then put down his efforts? We would be fairly certain you didn't take them if you were droving the car!

TD in DC

Hey MTosi, your name isn't "My_Silver08" on the "Drive Accord" forum, is it?

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=18503

BostonDMD

Good thing MTosi showed up.....
I don't have to take all of Bull's wrath.......

Kid....you are OK in my book, and I am solely judging you by the company
you keep.....

Bull

Dr. Pain, you aren't whining AGAIN, are you??????

BostonDMD

Sir.....

In my profession, I am not the one doing the whining.......