slvr993

How good are these dampers relative to a JRZ two way adjustable unit. The price is about 2K less which is attractive, unless it's one of those you get what you pay for scenarios. I'd like to upgrade once and just worry about springs going forward. Anyone have thoughts??

Thanks
Jeff

mooty

steve weiner will chime in soon.
club sport is at least on par with JRZ two ways.
in my personal exp., moton has much better after sale service.

chris walrod

+1

jerome951

I have no direct comparison to the JRZ 2-ways, but I love my club sports. 2 years with no problems (no leaks, holds canister pressure, consistent, etc.).

I did have to call with a question once. Lex answered (he's the guy that builds the shocks) and offered spot-on advice.

Geoffrey

Moton dampers and JRZ dampers are virtually the same. They are made by one of the people who started JRZ and use the same parts. There are minor differences. Moton has two lines of dampers, the race version and the club sport version, as does JRZ. The difference between the two lines are the number of adjustments and the construction of the damper. So, if you are comparing the Moton clubsport to a JRZ race (which I think you are given the 2k price difference), then the JRZ race damper will be a better damper. If you compare it to the JRZ clubsport version, then they are very similar. In the end, as has been mentioned, the Moton has excellent support, but more importantly is finding a distributor who can help you with an appropriate spring package for your car. Steve can certainly do that.

Mark in Baltimore

I have and love the Moton Clubsports, and chose them after doing a fair bit of research. There has been some talk here on Rennlist, however true it may or may not be, that the JRZ's require more frequent rebuilds. I have had my Motons for about three years now and, knock on wood, have not had to rebuild the dampers nor have I had any leaking or pressure issues.

986

x2. JRZ race dampers have red canisters, while the lower Clubsport lines have blue shock/reservoir.

JRZ Clubsport also comes in two versions, the RS Pro with remote reservoir, and the RS without. Both are double adjustible.

The price difference between Race and RS Pro is ~$2k. RS costs ~$1k less than the RS Pro. The exact difference depends on the specific model.

NoSubEDU

+2 on the Motons. I have the clubsport on my 993 and love them. Complete adjustability allows me to tailer to track. Also offers a sensible street/track solution since you can soften the bite quite a bit.

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Hi Jeff:

Great input here,...

JMHO, but Moton's quality control (that means longevity) and support really eclipses JRZ's by a wide margin and those are the main reasons to choose that product.

Without a doubt, both shocks would work very well for you as long as the vendor chooses the proper spring rates for you and provides setup & tuning information so you can take full advantage of their capabilities.

Please contact me directly if you have any further questions.

911S3.6

Great stuff, as my car is currently parked in Portland, OR @ Rennsport Systems awaiting it's race JRZs / suspension mods. I am happy to read all the positive feedback and as Geoffrey and Mooty stated, the fact that Steve knows how to put the whole package together. I've been working with Steve three years on this car from afar, but now it is time for him to do his magic snf put it asll together. Can't wait to get it back in it's new iteration.

mooty

steve has always been helpful with my zillions of questions. thank God, he's in OR., else i might as well just deposit my paychk into his shop every month.

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

LOL,...Hey John,.....I can make arrangements for that to happen,...

CA is a LOT closer to OR than MO,....

slvr993

Thanks Guys,

Great Input...I haven't ever heard anyone say a bad thing about the motons. My only hesitation was the concept of "Club sport" and being more "affordable". My concern was what do you give up...sounds like not much.

Steve I will take you up on that..actually you had kindly responded to an e-mail I sent already. I want to pull the trigger here shortly. I'll be in touch. I'm doing the math on Evo uprights / tie rods so I can get this all done at once. It adds up in a hurry which is why I like the Moton value.

Thanks
Jeff

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Personally, I don't think you give up much at all since the 14-way Race shocks take more time, effort, and experience to get optimized.

I'm at your service anytime you want and I can provide the necessary EVO uprights/tie-rods if that helps. I do provide new wheel bearings, too.

Don't forget to budget for front Camberplate/monoball and rear monoball mounts, too.

mooty

you need the evo uprights. with motons i suspect you will lower a car a bunch and may change susp geo enough to encounter bump str. evo uprights will fix that geometry issue.