new pca gt classes
12-19-2007, 12:06 AM
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I want to thank you all particularly Bruce Boeder for paying attention to our questions and responses . Initailly I wondered if there would be enough like minded people to challenge this decision . After listening to our discussion and appreciating how enjoyable pca is and must continue to be I now feel as there is a bit more of a direction for me,either continue on the weight loss program or simply add some weight and move a class .This decision being tempered by what other sanctioning bodies I want to race with . Receiving the reply from Bruce that this will be in place awhile has shown to me that this decision is in the best interest of gt classes and that is what ultimately works.
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12-19-2007, 02:00 AM
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I think the really interesting thing to look at would be some of the engine combo's that might pop up and suddenly be advantageous.
I think we'll start seeing some destroked engines in the near future as people try to wring more hp/L out of their cars.
I also see a potential need cropping up for custom 944/968 cranks that solve the oiling and bearing issues that are known to exist.
I think we'll start seeing some destroked engines in the near future as people try to wring more hp/L out of their cars.
I also see a potential need cropping up for custom 944/968 cranks that solve the oiling and bearing issues that are known to exist.
Joe could you add a 2.1 L turbo 4 and or a 2.2L /6 cyl turbo to your chart for comparison sakes.
12-19-2007, 09:44 AM
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Guys,
I did not put every combo of cars out there in my estimator. That would take me too long as there are too many engine size combos when you look at making non-standard engine displacements. Feel free to update the numbers yourself. Here is a link to the spreadsheet I used to generate the numbers.
http://members.rennlist.com/m758/PCA...Calculator.xls
I did not put every combo of cars out there in my estimator. That would take me too long as there are too many engine size combos when you look at making non-standard engine displacements. Feel free to update the numbers yourself. Here is a link to the spreadsheet I used to generate the numbers.
http://members.rennlist.com/m758/PCA...Calculator.xls
12-19-2007, 10:03 AM
#51
With regard to cars running to the 1972 SCCA rules, we did have a rules proposal up for comment this year about adding a "vintage 911" class, which would have done just that, run as set up to 1972 SCCA rules.
To our surprise I believe we had two comments in favor of the new class.
PCA club racing currently has a lot of different classes. The rules committee didn't feel that the expression of interest by two racers for the new "vintage" class was sufficient to add another class. However, if there is more interest during this coming year, we will certainly look at adding another class.
To our surprise I believe we had two comments in favor of the new class.
PCA club racing currently has a lot of different classes. The rules committee didn't feel that the expression of interest by two racers for the new "vintage" class was sufficient to add another class. However, if there is more interest during this coming year, we will certainly look at adding another class.
12-19-2007, 12:59 PM
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With regard to cars running to the 1972 SCCA rules, we did have a rules proposal up for comment this year about adding a "vintage 911" class, which would have done just that, run as set up to 1972 SCCA rules.
To our surprise I believe we had two comments in favor of the new class.
To our surprise I believe we had two comments in favor of the new class.
12-19-2007, 06:13 PM
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Mike, in our rules change proposals for this year, in the Spec Class rules proposals, at 4:
"Create a new class based on 911 Cup rules from the Porsche Racing Club in California. Note: This is posted to determine racer interest in exploring this concept."
I'm not sure of the exact number of comments we received on that proposal but it was only a couple, at most. As with the "vintage 911 prepared to 72 SCCA GCR's", unless we get a groundswell of support for adding another class, we are unlikely to do so.
And in response to the question about whether we would take comments from PCA members who are not club racers, although we listen to non racers, as a practical matter, the program is run by and for licensed club racers and we mainly pay attention to those who are already racing in the program.
Merry Christmas to all. I hope that Santa puts a new cup car under each and every one of your trees, or at least some fresh tires.
Bruce
"Create a new class based on 911 Cup rules from the Porsche Racing Club in California. Note: This is posted to determine racer interest in exploring this concept."
I'm not sure of the exact number of comments we received on that proposal but it was only a couple, at most. As with the "vintage 911 prepared to 72 SCCA GCR's", unless we get a groundswell of support for adding another class, we are unlikely to do so.
And in response to the question about whether we would take comments from PCA members who are not club racers, although we listen to non racers, as a practical matter, the program is run by and for licensed club racers and we mainly pay attention to those who are already racing in the program.
Merry Christmas to all. I hope that Santa puts a new cup car under each and every one of your trees, or at least some fresh tires.
Bruce
12-19-2007, 07:33 PM
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12-20-2007, 08:49 AM
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As with the "vintage 911 prepared to 72 SCCA GCR's", unless we get a groundswell of support for adding another class, we are unlikely to do so.
And in response to the question about whether we would take comments from PCA members who are not club racers, although we listen to non racers, as a practical matter, the program is run by and for licensed club racers and we mainly pay attention to those who are already racing in the program.
Bruce
Currently there is very little incentive for someone that is running a vintage car to join PCA club racing. It’s not much fun running basically a stock car in a GT class just to get run over by true GT cars. You want me to pay for a license so that I can have a voice???? Sorry it will not happen. You need to listen to the PCA members who have vintage cars that they are currently racing. If you need to verify that they are racing just ask them to provide their vintage racing license number with their comments. Remember PCA racing was started by PCA members because there was an interest and that NONE of them had a PCA racing license. 
12-20-2007, 10:27 AM
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I think the really interesting thing to look at would be some of the engine combo's that might pop up and suddenly be advantageous.
I think we'll start seeing some destroked engines in the near future as people try to wring more hp/L out of their cars.
I also see a potential need cropping up for custom 944/968 cranks that solve the oiling and bearing issues that are known to exist.
I think we'll start seeing some destroked engines in the near future as people try to wring more hp/L out of their cars.
I also see a potential need cropping up for custom 944/968 cranks that solve the oiling and bearing issues that are known to exist.
I'm getting some brand new billet cranks built, right now. I'm going for a 2ltr 16v turbo.
