Infineon Track Video
11-14-2007, 04:09 PM
#31
Sorry you asked about the race--it still hurts to discuss. Won on Sat (GT2). Qualified 1st on Sunday and then led GT2 in the race until turn #10 of the final lap where I got hung up lapping Todd (Nostatic) and another guy Todd was racing against (Mike?). My arch nemesis/competitor in GT2 passed me on the inside and we crossed start/finish 1/10 sec. apart. That 1/10 sec. meant BIG ramifications for the Championship --I'm now down 8 pts. and have to win both upcoming races at Willow in a couple weeks in order to win the Cship. Had I won on Sunday, the reverse would have been true and my competitor would have had to win both the upcoming races for the Championship. Oh well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet!
11-14-2007, 07:11 PM
#32
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I hear you! That's the same that happened to me with the SCCA ITE Champtionship. 5 cars all mathematically in it, the one car i needed to beat both races to win. It came down to a 2 point situation that is still being argued. SCCA tosses out a race of the 13 we run , and now they are saying toss out a weekend lowest point total, which could be 2 races tied together. The Vet and i both have one bad finish due to mechanical, mine on a double race weekend, his on a single. (but i have more 1sts and higher finishes all year long. He might win by 2 points if they stick by the rules even though i have 304 points to 294 points. In this regard, the POC point system is much better!
So, great drive, and best of luck at willow springs!
Mk
So, great drive, and best of luck at willow springs!
Mk
Sorry you asked about the race--it still hurts to discuss. Won on Sat (GT2). Qualified 1st on Sunday and then led GT2 in the race until turn #10 of the final lap where I got hung up lapping Todd (Nostatic) and another guy Todd was racing against (Mike?). My arch nemesis/competitor in GT2 passed me on the inside and we crossed start/finish 1/10 sec. apart. That 1/10 sec. meant BIG ramifications for the Championship --I'm now down 8 pts. and have to win both upcoming races at Willow in a couple weeks in order to win the Cship. Had I won on Sunday, the reverse would have been true and my competitor would have had to win both the upcoming races for the Championship. Oh well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet!
11-14-2007, 08:32 PM
#34
Why do you think the POC system is better? (BTW, we/POC throw out 4 races towards the total that counts for the Championship--which worked well for me due to mechancal issues all year).
11-15-2007, 01:02 PM
#35
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4 races? wow, that kind of rules out the major mechical factors 
SCCA is really unfair in a close season. Think about this. they toss one event out. an event can be one weekend with one race or two separate events over one weekend, (two separate races) OR, (get this) one even weekend can have 2 races tied together withone event number! What this means is that someone that wins every single race, but breaks down in one race as part of a double race, single event weekend, will loose the championship if the other close competitor that was 2nd in each of those races, breaks down in a single event weekend, not a dual race, single event weekend. ALL the races count for equal points, but if you are going to have a bad race, it better happen on a single weekend, otherwise you get really hosed!
It is kind of a crazy system, and i wonder why this wasnt noticed over SCCA's extensive racing past. heck, why not just toss 2 races, or 4 races like POC does?
mk
SCCA is really unfair in a close season. Think about this. they toss one event out. an event can be one weekend with one race or two separate events over one weekend, (two separate races) OR, (get this) one even weekend can have 2 races tied together withone event number! What this means is that someone that wins every single race, but breaks down in one race as part of a double race, single event weekend, will loose the championship if the other close competitor that was 2nd in each of those races, breaks down in a single event weekend, not a dual race, single event weekend. ALL the races count for equal points, but if you are going to have a bad race, it better happen on a single weekend, otherwise you get really hosed!
It is kind of a crazy system, and i wonder why this wasnt noticed over SCCA's extensive racing past. heck, why not just toss 2 races, or 4 races like POC does?
mk
11-15-2007, 01:37 PM
#36
What this means is that someone that wins every single race, but breaks down in one race as part of a double race, single event weekend, will loose the championship if the other close competitor that was 2nd in each of those races, breaks down in a single event weekend, not a dual race, single event weekend. ALL the races count for equal points, but if you are going to have a bad race, it better happen on a single weekend, otherwise you get really hosed!
It is kind of a crazy system, and i wonder why this wasnt noticed over SCCA's extensive racing past. heck, why not just toss 2 races, or 4 races like POC does?
mk
It is kind of a crazy system, and i wonder why this wasnt noticed over SCCA's extensive racing past. heck, why not just toss 2 races, or 4 races like POC does?
mk
11-15-2007, 02:46 PM
#37
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Thanks. the frustrating thing, is in our second to last race, the vet was gridded incorrectly (up one spot to where he should have been, as in , behind me ) , so during the start, the porsche dogged turn 1, so the vet on the outside sprinted ahead, where if he was gridded properly behind me, that would have never happened. he was .5 seconds slower a lap during the race too. I didnt protest, because i thought i had a 10 point championship point lead, tossing out my lowest season race point total. THEN, the reality of this happed after the season ended. i lost by 2 points as they tossed a full point weekend race out, and not the botched race of a double race, single event, weekend. 
At least its not a $million issue like if we were pros! so , his trophy will be a little bigger than mine. i guess size isnt everything, right?????
mk
) , so during the start, the porsche dogged turn 1, so the vet on the outside sprinted ahead, where if he was gridded properly behind me, that would have never happened. he was .5 seconds slower a lap during the race too. I didnt protest, because i thought i had a 10 point championship point lead, tossing out my lowest season race point total. THEN, the reality of this happed after the season ended. i lost by 2 points as they tossed a full point weekend race out, and not the botched race of a double race, single event, weekend. At least its not a $million issue like if we were pros! so , his trophy will be a little bigger than mine. i guess size isnt everything, right?????
mk
11-16-2007, 12:22 AM
#38
Thanks. the frustrating thing, is in our second to last race, the vet was gridded incorrectly (up one spot to where he should have been, as in , behind me ) , so during the start, the porsche dogged turn 1, so the vet on the outside sprinted ahead, where if he was gridded properly behind me, that would have never happened. he was .5 seconds slower a lap during the race too. I didnt protest, because i thought i had a 10 point championship point lead, tossing out my lowest season race point total. THEN, the reality of this happed after the season ended. i lost by 2 points as they tossed a full point weekend race out, and not the botched race of a double race, single event, weekend.
At least its not a $million issue like if we were pros! so , his trophy will be a little bigger than mine. i guess size isnt everything, right?????
mk
) , so during the start, the porsche dogged turn 1, so the vet on the outside sprinted ahead, where if he was gridded properly behind me, that would have never happened. he was .5 seconds slower a lap during the race too. I didnt protest, because i thought i had a 10 point championship point lead, tossing out my lowest season race point total. THEN, the reality of this happed after the season ended. i lost by 2 points as they tossed a full point weekend race out, and not the botched race of a double race, single event, weekend. At least its not a $million issue like if we were pros! so , his trophy will be a little bigger than mine. i guess size isnt everything, right?????
mk
Man you got me cryin' and laffin' at the same time (but mostly cryin'). That's a terrible tale and I feel your pain. Come to some POC events!!
11-16-2007, 01:31 AM
#39
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I do miss POC, but they make me run with 300lbs extra weight to run in R5, so my same hp to weight ratio can compete with Roush, alarcon, and a couple of others that weight 1000lbs less! (POC has a great point system except for the fact that they dont understand weight helps braking and cornering too So, the 928 doesnt get classed very fairly, until you put a stroker in it like Anderson and Fan and put down 500rwhp for GT2!
I will do some POC/PRC events next year, so ill look for the bumble bee rocket!
MK
So, the 928 doesnt get classed very fairly, until you put a stroker in it like Anderson and Fan and put down 500rwhp for GT2!I will do some POC/PRC events next year, so ill look for the bumble bee rocket!
MK