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Old 10-19-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Hamilton tops practice 2 - Brazil

By Matt Beer Friday, October 19th 2007, 17:33 GMT

Championship leader Lewis Hamilton beat title rival Fernando Alonso to the fastest time in Friday afternoon practice at Interlagos.

Despite the looming prospect of a post-session visit to the stewards to find out if he will be penalised for using too many sets of wet tyres earlier on, Hamilton set the fastest time by 0.122 seconds when both McLarens tried the softer Bridgestones in the final minutes.

The Ferraris only managed third and fourth places.

After the rain that affected first practice, only a few damp areas remained when the second session began. A few drivers experimented with intermediate tyres initially, but once Mark Webber had gone quickest by 2.6 seconds on dry tyres, the rest of the field swiftly followed suit.

With track conditions improving all the time, the top spot quickly changed hands during the following half an hour. Alonso's early 1:16.081 benchmark did not last long before Hamilton embarked on a long run that eventually took him down to a 1:14.949 lap.

Felipe Massa then took a brief turn on top before Alonso reclaimed first place. The BMW drivers were next to lead the way when they tried the softer tyres, with Robert Kubica holding a six tenths of a second advantage over the rest of the field at the halfway point.

Alonso's first run on soft tyres was spoilt by traffic, but on the second attempt he produced a 1:13.239 and beat Kubica by 0.3 seconds.

That proved insufficient when Hamilton switched to softs five minutes later. The championship leader lapped in 1:12.767, half a second quicker than his teammate.

They were briefly split by Felipe Massa, before Alonso found more time on a new set of tyres and closed the gap to Hamilton to 0.122 seconds.

Kimi Raikkonen lost time on his soft tyre run when he locked up while trying to pass Hamilton. He could only manage fourth place.

Giancarlo Fisichella completed the top five for Renault, ahead of Kubica and the two Williams. Kazuki Nakajima had been as high as fourth during the session, before ending the day 0.009 seconds slower than teammate Nico Rosberg.

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.767 27
2. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.889 + 0.122 28
3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:13.075 + 0.308 30
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:13.112 + 0.345 30
5. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:13.549 + 0.782 22
6. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.587 + 0.820 34
7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.655 + 0.888 33
8. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.664 + 0.897 38
9. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.706 + 0.939 30
10. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.785 + 1.018 44
11. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:13.829 + 1.062 29
12. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:13.879 + 1.112 28
13. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.892 + 1.125 45
14. Button Honda (B) 1:14.095 + 1.328 44
15. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:14.152 + 1.385 33
16. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:14.179 + 1.412 25
17. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:14.409 + 1.642 37
18. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:14.431 + 1.664 27
19. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:14.477 + 1.710 31
20. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:14.543 + 1.776 35
21. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:15.095 + 2.328 35
22. Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:15.715 + 2.948 32
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Originally Posted by ltc
from the F1.com website:

It was thus a good day for Hamilton, but there is a hair on the cake; this morning McLaren accidentally contravened Article 25.3 of the 2007 Formula One sporting regulations. These state that in the first two practice sessions a driver may use one set of wet tyres and one set of extreme-wets. Somehow McLaren contrived to send him out during his 10-lap run on two sets of wets. The stewards will meet later to discuss potential penalties, and Jenson Button at Honda and Takuma Sato at Super Aguri will also be sailing the same boat. It is likely that each will lose a set of tyres on Saturday

Hmmn, maybe Hamilton needs an FIA observer to watch the Alonso FIA observer.....
These are the little things Mclaren have played with all year in creating a level playing field for their" Drivers "
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
By Matt Beer Friday, October 19th 2007, 17:33 GMT

Championship leader Lewis Hamilton beat title rival Fernando Alonso to the fastest time in Friday afternoon practice at Interlagos.

Despite the looming prospect of a post-session visit to the stewards to find out if he will be penalised for using too many sets of wet tyres earlier on, Hamilton set the fastest time by 0.122 seconds when both McLarens tried the softer Bridgestones in the final minutes.

The Ferraris only managed third and fourth places.

After the rain that affected first practice, only a few damp areas remained when the second session began. A few drivers experimented with intermediate tyres initially, but once Mark Webber had gone quickest by 2.6 seconds on dry tyres, the rest of the field swiftly followed suit.

With track conditions improving all the time, the top spot quickly changed hands during the following half an hour. Alonso's early 1:16.081 benchmark did not last long before Hamilton embarked on a long run that eventually took him down to a 1:14.949 lap.

Felipe Massa then took a brief turn on top before Alonso reclaimed first place. The BMW drivers were next to lead the way when they tried the softer tyres, with Robert Kubica holding a six tenths of a second advantage over the rest of the field at the halfway point.

Alonso's first run on soft tyres was spoilt by traffic, but on the second attempt he produced a 1:13.239 and beat Kubica by 0.3 seconds.

That proved insufficient when Hamilton switched to softs five minutes later. The championship leader lapped in 1:12.767, half a second quicker than his teammate.

They were briefly split by Felipe Massa, before Alonso found more time on a new set of tyres and closed the gap to Hamilton to 0.122 seconds.

Kimi Raikkonen lost time on his soft tyre run when he locked up while trying to pass Hamilton. He could only manage fourth place.

Giancarlo Fisichella completed the top five for Renault, ahead of Kubica and the two Williams. Kazuki Nakajima had been as high as fourth during the session, before ending the day 0.009 seconds slower than teammate Nico Rosberg.

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.767 27
2. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.889 + 0.122 28
3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:13.075 + 0.308 30
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:13.112 + 0.345 30
5. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:13.549 + 0.782 22
6. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.587 + 0.820 34
7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.655 + 0.888 33
8. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.664 + 0.897 38
9. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.706 + 0.939 30
10. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.785 + 1.018 44
11. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:13.829 + 1.062 29
12. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:13.879 + 1.112 28
13. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.892 + 1.125 45
14. Button Honda (B) 1:14.095 + 1.328 44
15. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:14.152 + 1.385 33
16. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:14.179 + 1.412 25
17. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:14.409 + 1.642 37
18. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:14.431 + 1.664 27
19. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:14.477 + 1.710 31
20. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:14.543 + 1.776 35
21. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:15.095 + 2.328 35
22. Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:15.715 + 2.948 32
These times mean nothing...sector times are bit more accurate as far as speed representation.
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Default Hamilton's rule infringement

Article 25.3 reads: 'No driver may use more than one set of wet and one set of extreme weather tyres during P1 and P2'.
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The BBC said a demotion of five grid positions is one possible sanction, but the stewards may also consider a solely monetary penalty.

With just Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix remaining, Hamilton is four and seven points ahead of Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen respectively in the drivers' classification.



As i said before Karma can be a Bitch , If FA did not recieve that rediculous penalty, that moved him back 5 grid spots in Hungary he would be WDC by now , If hammy does get a 5 grid penalty , God is watching F1 with Senna
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Woo-hoo! Only a 15,000 Euro fine for the team, and no penalty for Hammy!! Wow so what's the total fine for McLaren this year? $100M plus $50,000 for the Hungary qualifying incident plus another $20,000 for this -- that's quite a contribution to the FIA!

From Autosport.com:

"Dennis, whose team has been excluded last month from the 2007 constructors' championship, was also humorous about the situation, adding: "I just hope the stewards don't take the constructors' championship points away - oh, wait, they've already done that!"
Old 10-19-2007, 09:27 PM
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Hamilton will not win, Alonso will.
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Maybe RD should just ask the FOCA to email the invoice, then deny ever receiving it Wonder if they accept Paypal?
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There might be some stuff that you guys would be interested on this blog: http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
As i said before Karma can be a Bitch , If FA did not recieve that rediculous penalty, that moved him back 5 grid spots in Hungary he would be WDC by now , If hammy does get a 5 grid penalty , God is watching F1 with Senna
Nope, only a 15000 euro fine

Karma balance goes up!
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Originally Posted by sonny1
Hamilton will not win, Alonso will.
Yes, Hamilton will come in second place, thereby winning the championship.
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How many pages will this thread be once all of the dust has settled? Anyone care to guess? I say 17. Then again, it depends on how many points Kimi wins the title by
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Depends on what goes on during the race -- if it rains, this thread could go on by quite a bit. If there's a red flag interrupting the race, I'm sure this thread will go on even further!
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www.f1racing.net (Briatore stalls on drivers, praises Alonso)

McLaren might swap drivers with Renault -- Alonso for Kovalainen + $. Nelson Pinquet Jr. to ride along side Alonso if that happens.
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Default Massa fastest in practice 3 - Brazil

By Matt Beer Saturday, October 20th 2007, 14:03 GMT


Felipe Massa shaded the title contenders in the final free practice session at Interlagos.

The Brazilian dominated the hour, ending up a tenth clear of Lewis Hamilton and Kimi Raikkonen, while Fernando Alonso only managed eighth.

There was no repeat of Friday's inclement weather, with a dry track and hot conditions greeting the field.

Massa set the early pace with a 1:12.653 lap, which at that stage put him four tenths of a second clear of Raikkonen and six tenths ahead of the evenly-matched McLarens.

Raikkonen responded with a 1:12.358 on his second run, but this was swiftly beaten by Massa's 1:12.136. Alonso found 0.4 seconds and improved to 1:12.817, while Hamilton did not gain on this run and was pushed right back to 15th as midfield runners improved their times.

As usual the field then switched into qualifying preparations and used supersoft tyres for their last runs, and again it was Massa who set the benchmark by lapping in 1:11.810 with four minutes to go. That was 0.132 seconds quicker than Raikkonen managed on his soft tyre flying lap moments later.

Hamilton then vaulted up the order to split the Ferraris with his soft tyre run, but Alonso's gain was much smaller, and he ended the session down in seventh place, 0.8 seconds off the pace.

Mark Webber showed strong form throughout the session and eventually took fourth for Red Bull, with Jarno Trulli bringing his Toyota up to fifth with his last run.

Rubens Barrichello also had a promising morning at his home track and spent much of the hour in the top ten before taking sixth.

BMW had a disappointing time, with Nick Heidfeld only seventh, and Robert Kubica falling to 20th after stopping on the exit of Cotovelo with a mechanical problem.

Sebastian Vettel and Vitantonio Liuzzi took an impressive ninth and 11th for Toro Rosso, sandwiching Williams' Nico Rosberg.

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:11.810 + 22
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:11.934 + 0.124 18
3. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:11.942 + 0.132 21
4. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:12.446 + 0.636 14
5. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:12.461 + 0.651 23
6. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:12.478 + 0.668 24
7. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.579 + 0.769 25
8. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.594 + 0.784 12
9. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.767 + 0.957 18
10. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:12.823 + 1.013 20
11. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.893 + 1.083 20
12. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:12.913 + 1.103 20
13. Button Honda (B) 1:13.015 + 1.205 22
14. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:13.046 + 1.236 23
15. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:13.090 + 1.280 20
16. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.117 + 1.307 12
17. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:13.299 + 1.489 16
18. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:13.331 + 1.521 16
19. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.474 + 1.664 17
20. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.525 + 1.715 14
21. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:13.684 + 1.874 21
22. Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:13.872 + 2.062 21
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Hamilton screwed up Raikko's lap... :|


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