David 23

I stand corrected. I don't know anything about them other than the websites etc. I guess anything can look good if presented right.
So which ones are actually being built?

TR6

Eagles Canyon is very real. I've driven on it in its 'beta' paved state. Its almost complete in its final state now. Another month or so depending on weather. Can't wait.

Seems to me that one of the biggest obstacle of building a track is the cost of the land. That's where tracks like Eagles Canyon have an advantage over proposed projects in some other states. Land in rural Texas is realtively cheap if it is far enough away from a large city. The exception is the Hill Country (Austin-San Antonio area). That's why I would guess that Bergennenring may never get built. Raw land anywhere in the Hill Country has gotten much more expensive in the last 5-10 years and will probably continue to rise.

Veloce Raptor

Eagles Canyon is real. Harris Hill Road is real, AFAIK, although it will be a VERY bare-bones, members only facility. No DE's, no race cars, etc.

The Driveway is currently a 6/10 mile AX/karting track. There are some significant zoning, noise, and environmental obstacles facing the planned expansion to a 2.6 mile road course, in addition to funding & the general cluster**** encountered when dealing with the City of Austin.

We will see about the others.

David 23

Yes, I have driven Eagles Canyon several times now, in its early form. That's where I met you Greg!
Is Racer's Ranch a go?

TR6

Yep. But you were in a hotrod mini, right? I got some photos of you and the other Mini running out there. Good times, man! Look forward to seeing you out there soon!

deep_uv

I talked with the owner about his plans as he was by chance my instructor at a PCA Autocross school there at the Driveway. I agree, Dave. Getting everything he wants done right there next to the River past the Austin Enviro ***** will be tough deal.

Additionally, We won't be running on it anyway because he's planning on a private track with his own cars - a driving school. Said he had no plans of renting it out. The layout sounded pretty cool though, he's planning on duplicating famous turns from famous race tracks like the Corkscrew, etc...


Steve

David 23

Yeah, that's the wife's track toy/daily driver. I keep the 993 at MSR.

Veloce Raptor

Steve, a little history. The Driveway was originally built by a good friend of mine (not the current owner) on some land his company owned as a private kart track. He used it as such for nearly 2 years, and I joined him there many times, both with his shifter karts & in my M3. He then sold it to Bill, whom I also know from racing, who wanted to make it a commercial facility.

Even thought it is next to railroad tracks & a prison & is DIRECTLY under the main airport flight path, the residential neighbors whine about noise.

IMO, Bill's model (private facility, school only, no DE's or races) is a recipe for total failure. I have seen his business plan, and I do not see any way he can produce the cash flow it will take to keep that place in tip top shape. I have told him this, but he insists that he can make the numbers work, and says his investors are behind him. Bill is a very nice guy, but his driving skills far exceed his business skills, IMHO.

Which is why I think most of these places will make EXCELLENT values for their second owners.

deep_uv

Yup, totally agree.

Steve

McGarrett

Why yes they are. www.countryclubroadcourse.com

George A

David, yes I also joined EC. I'm really debating on what to do with the car. EC is a few minutes closer to my house than MSR, in almost the opposite direction. My issue with keeping the car at MSR is that if I ever want to go to EC, I'll need to spend an hour going to MSR then another hour to EC. I'm on the verge of brining the car home so that I can do both with the same effort. I will miss the arrive and drive setup I have right now at MSR but I have I feeling I'll be going to EC more often than MSR. I was out at MSR all day yesterday and all I could think of was EC....... I just wish they had all the amenities of MSR all ready built.

George

David 23

Yeah George, I wondered about the drive for you. I love having my car at MSR, but am unsure what to do about going to a DE at EC. My car isn't even tagged and can't get inspected (SAI Cel) so I am concerned about the drive from MSR back home, then the drive to EC. I simply don't have garage space at home for the Porsche, three other cars have filled it all up.
I went out today and did a session. Wish I had known you were there yesterday, I would have gone then. My tires are shot, but it's still fun.

TT Gasman

I hope these pan out, most are pretty close to Houston

TR6

Simple, David. If you drive fast enough on the street, the cops won't be able to see that you are missing your inspection sticker.

justs4l

Thanks. I guess I was Googling the wrong thing.

Judging by the pics, it looks like it will be out in the desert. Any idea where?