So did anybody else see Robby Gordon get screwed over in Montreal???
08-04-2007 | 11:49 PM
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He may have gotten screwed...but he gave up any chance to get his point across (or appeal) by not going where he was told, ignoring the black flag and then intentionally taking out Ambrose...he gave NASCAR everything they need to put it to him....
08-05-2007 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by #11 WCGT GT3RSR
Sorry but I have to disagree with you. I think that once again Robby did this to himself. First off while the actual pass on Ambrose was clean it was precipitated by Robby lightly getting into the back of Marcus coming out of turn two while all the carnage was going on behind. That tap, IMO, got Marcus lose and allowed Robbie to get a drive on him. But the real thing that screwed Robby was that payback hit he put on Marcus under caution. NASCAR has always taken a dim view of that and Robby should know that. I'm sure that he was in 2nd when the yellow came out but when he made his way back up to Marcus that love tap is probably what sent him back to 12th. As far as a suspension; ignoring officials orders, ignoring multiple black flags, and taking the leader of the race out while not being offically scored is absolutely grounds for suspension. One race would be too short. Is he an great driver? no doubt. Does he get treated differently from Jr. by NASCAR because of his boneheaded moves? you betcha.
Anyway:
Robby got screwed, Pruit got screwed. Harvick schooled them all.
Hire a bunch of hot shoe road racers and a NASCAR regualr wins....unbeleivable. I wish Andy Pilgrim would have learned a few NASCAR tricks and punted Harvick out of the way. No way he deserved to win, but he sure did it the NASCAR way.
08-05-2007 | 01:22 AM
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First off I'm a huge Robbie Gordon fan, the guy is a throwback to the likes of David Pearson and Cale Yarborough. He's what we used to call a hard driver, I wish there were more drivers like him. Robbie got screwed plain and simple, his pass on Ambrose was clean, when the yellow comes out the field is frozen, end of story. Worst case he should have been 2nd on the restart. Good for him having the ***** to disobey the NASCAR officials when they were grossly wrong. I was cheering when he punted Ambrose out of the way at the end, Robbie won that race.
08-05-2007 | 05:40 PM
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I don't follow NASCAR at all, I can't speak to the various driver personalitites, I watched because it was a road course race. What Gordon did made me sick. Sure, he probably did get screwed by the officials, so what? Bad calls happen in every sport. His refusal to follow the officials' instructions and deliberately crashing another car was disgusting. It isn't beyond the ralm of possibility that such behavior could end up killing someone.
Be a man, suck it up, deal with it, lodge a complaint after the race, whatever.
Just confirms my opinion that NASCAR is a "sport" in the same way that roller derby and professional wrestling are. Oh, sorry, as the ad makes clear.. "its a way of life."
Be a man, suck it up, deal with it, lodge a complaint after the race, whatever.
Just confirms my opinion that NASCAR is a "sport" in the same way that roller derby and professional wrestling are. Oh, sorry, as the ad makes clear.. "its a way of life."
08-05-2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by H2OJazz
I don't follow NASCAR at all, I can't speak to the various driver personalitites, I watched because it was a road course race. What Gordon did made me sick. Sure, he probably did get screwed by the officials, so what? Bad calls happen in every sport. His refusal to follow the officials' instructions and deliberately crashing another car was disgusting. It isn't beyond the ralm of possibility that such behavior could end up killing someone.
Be a man, suck it up, deal with it, lodge a complaint after the race, whatever.
Just confirms my opinion that NASCAR is a "sport" in the same way that roller derby and professional wrestling are. Oh, sorry, as the ad makes clear.. "its a way of life."
Be a man, suck it up, deal with it, lodge a complaint after the race, whatever.
Just confirms my opinion that NASCAR is a "sport" in the same way that roller derby and professional wrestling are. Oh, sorry, as the ad makes clear.. "its a way of life."
Mike
08-05-2007 | 08:05 PM
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NA$CRAP got Robby, again !!!Tony Stewart called em out a few weeks ago over...
the Stealthy Debris... bringing out phony caution flags...
then Stewart backed down.
IMO... Family France runs their circus... worse than Vinnie Mac runs the WWE...
if that's possible.
All the France's operations have become nothing but a "SHOW"...
the Sport has been cleanly removed with a $caple... it's all about the MONEY !!!
See Speed TV's article "Cup: Robby Gordon parked" for their explaination.
08-05-2007 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by trumperZ06
NA$CRAP got Robby, again !!!Tony Stewart called em out a few weeks ago over...
the Stealthy Debris... bringing out phony caution flags...
then Stewart backed down.
IMO... Family France runs their circus... worse than Vinnie Mac runs the WWE...
if that's possible.
All the France's operations have become nothing but a "SHOW"...
the Sport has been cleanly removed with a $caple... it's all about the MONEY !!!
See Speed TV's article "Cup: Robby Gordon parked" for their explaination.
Well by their own rules, as quated in the above article Robbie should have been in First place since the field would have been fronzen as the yellow flags were thrown. (clearly visable from the camera shot showing the flag stand in the upper right as Amborse spun Robbie. Amborse should have been second.)
I, for one, commend Robbie for continuing to run. Appeal after the fact rarley works. Better to let the fans see the BS in action. (especially when the stewards were so clearly, black and white wrong.
HOWEVER!, Robbie should not have driven up and nudged Ambrose. Had he not done that, as already mentioned, I don't think there would have been such as uproar.
Robby's Comments:
http://www.robbygordon.com/cms/publi...icle_911.shtml
08-06-2007 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TT Gasman
Robbie got screwed plain and simple, his pass on Ambrose was clean, when the yellow comes out the field is frozen, end of story.
08-06-2007 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveM993
He may have gotten screwed...but he gave up any chance to get his point across (or appeal) by not going where he was told, ignoring the black flag and then intentionally taking out Ambrose...he gave NASCAR everything they need to put it to him....
But.....
I am not a Robbie Gordon fan, but I do respect his abilities as a driver.
But, through his temper and lack of judgement, he always seems to put himself in a position to remove himself from contention.....
08-06-2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by beab951
Problem was that the yellow was out when he passed Ambrose.
Worst case, Robby should have restarted in 2nd place. NASCAR really blew this one.
08-06-2007 | 10:52 AM
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I think Dave Despain said last night on Wind Tunnel that they've gotten more email and phone calls on this 1 incident than any other in the history of the show.
If they were like the people who were calling in this morning on the radio show, 90% of them were in support of Robby, and said the same thing - NASCAR blew it... I'm in that 90%...
Brian
If they were like the people who were calling in this morning on the radio show, 90% of them were in support of Robby, and said the same thing - NASCAR blew it... I'm in that 90%...
Brian
Hhmmm... also DeSpain mentioned that Speed TV had invited NA$CRAP to comment on the Robby fiasco... NA$CRAP's reply... everyone was busy... returning home from Pocono.