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Old 07-18-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by M758
I don't left foot brake. It is very useful skill, but less important that heel and toe and trail braking.
I think LFB allows you to keep/get on the gas a lot quicker and keep the car better balanced but I find it hard, with old 911 pedal placement, to get my foot up and around the clutch pedal.. need a lot more practice. I have (against taught policy) been LFB in road cars my whole life and have a very good feel for it. If I drove a Tip it would be easy..
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Originally Posted by M758
I don't left foot brake. It is very useful skill, but less important that heel and toe and trail braking.
Well I wouldn't say it's a less important skill as h&t, it's just a different one that is used at a different time. Anyone who races MUST h&t that's a given. As for lfb being less important than tb, well they often are used at the same time anyway.
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If I had the ability to left foot brake I would, most definity. My normal street driving habit when I had a left foot was to left foot brake. That comes from me being ambitextrious as a drummer.
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I loaded my video showing trail braking into turn 1 at Daytona into Google Video. Though the resolution was better on the other site, this link works.
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Originally Posted by mdrums
If I had the ability to left foot brake I would, most definitely. My normal street driving habit when I had a left foot was to left foot brake. That comes from me being ambidextrous as a drummer.
You've just got to watch out when you're used to double kick pedals not to mention your paradiddles...
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You've just got to watch out when you're used to double kick pedals not to mention your paradiddles...
Yep! I can't do double bass anymore so now I have the fastest right foot ever! Both on the bass pedal and between throttle and brake.
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Originally Posted by mdrums
Yep! I can't do double bass anymore so now I have the fastest right foot ever! Both on the bass pedal and between throttle and brake.
don't get too cocky. Just remember that it will get a lot harder once you exceed 20 mph
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Well I wouldn't say it's a less important skill as h&t, it's just a different one that is used at a different time. Anyone who races MUST h&t that's a given. As for lfb being less important than tb, well they often are used at the same time anyway.

If you want to be a fast racer...

Heel & Toe is a requirement = You will not be close without it

Trail Braking = seperates the fast racers from slower ones.


Left Foot braking = is a nice tool, but there are still sucessfull pro racers who don't left foot brake. Most do however since it is an advantage and those that started in karting and are used to sequential gearboxes find it natural. Still at a club racing level you can still be very very very fast if you only Heel & toe and trail brake and don't LFB. If you do LFB, but can't trail brake you will be slow.
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Originally Posted by mdrums
Yep! I can't do double bass anymore so now I have the fastest right foot ever! Both on the bass pedal and between throttle and brake.
Hey if you stick to love ballads you won't have to worry about going off the circut, but once you start with 3/4's or 13/16ths then LOOK OUT!! lol. Good luck to you.
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Originally Posted by M758
If you want to be a fast racer...

Heel & Toe is a requirement = You will not be close without it

Trail Braking = separates the fast racers from slower ones.


Left Foot braking = is a nice tool, but there are still successful pro racers who don't left foot brake. Most do however since it is an advantage and those that started in karting and are used to sequential gearboxes find it natural. Still at a club racing level you can still be very very very fast if you only Heel & toe and trail brake and don't LFB. If you do LFB, but can't trail brake you will be slow.
Agreed. I don't believe that anyone races who can't h&t or double de-clutch. As for lfb and tb, well the fastest guys seem to all tb and probably lfb. I went in a GT2 driven by one of our top 5 drivers ever (Jim Richards Bathurst winner, Le Mans racer etc...) and then he took me for a few laps around the track in my car. Funnily enough he didn't do anything that surprised me except some of his corner entry lines were shallower than mine, but I think that he was driving a line that is pure racer. As in protect the corner so nobody can come up inside under brakes, also he's used to massive slicks that allow such a different line through outright grip. They don't go 'Wide-shallow-wide', they go 'Medium-tight-tight-exit' if you see what I'm saying. This is on tighter corners and hairpins. He loved my car too by the way.
For fancy footwork check this guy out!! We're not too shabby down under. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpqTZ6WeJk
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Hey Sean,

I think I have posted this before, but I share your pain on getting the timing right for trailbraking. Here is me getting it wrong, a little: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...18686626720996

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Originally Posted by TD in DC
Hey Sean,

I think I have posted this before, but I share your pain on getting the timing right for trailbraking. Here is me getting it wrong, a little: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...18686626720996

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That looks familiar

Good recovery. Experimenting with it really does take all of your car control skills. It can really go wrong in a hurry.
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That looks familiar

Good recovery. Experimenting with it really does take all of your car control skills. It can really go wrong in a hurry.
Yes, I love still shots where your head is looking off to the right, the road is going to the right, and you are steering full left
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Ah yes. Looks familiar
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