Spin - Both Feet In
#16
When the wheels are stopped, the tip automatically selects 2nd gear ( forward), this happens all the time in normal stop-start traffic.I guess that in your situation your right foot is the only one that is operative, it will be hard on the brake and 'off' the throttle. Nothing for the left foot to do, apart from tense up for the oncoming impact <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Al P.:
<strong>Once the wheels are locked up it makes no difference which direction the car is traveling.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">But when you are considering the difference between "both feet in" for a stick and auto, it is focused largely on that time period when the car is coming around. You need to get the clutch in to keep the engine running as you get on the brakes. With the auto, the tires are likely going to reverse before you get them locked up, so I think the question does matter. Again, however, I don't see how it is going to damage the engine or transmission.
Once you get the wheels locked up (assuming you can actually get full lock w/ ABS), then your point is valid.
<strong>Once the wheels are locked up it makes no difference which direction the car is traveling.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">But when you are considering the difference between "both feet in" for a stick and auto, it is focused largely on that time period when the car is coming around. You need to get the clutch in to keep the engine running as you get on the brakes. With the auto, the tires are likely going to reverse before you get them locked up, so I think the question does matter. Again, however, I don't see how it is going to damage the engine or transmission.
Once you get the wheels locked up (assuming you can actually get full lock w/ ABS), then your point is valid.
#18
Personally I don't see the damage issue myself. On a stick reason for mashing the clutch is obvious, keep the engine running. The reason for locking up the brakes eluded me until I saw a car catch traction in the middle of a spin and drive itself into the side of the track (the side with the ugly blue armco) If the driver had locked up the wheels the law of physics "that an object in motion tends to stay in motion along the same path unless acted upon by an outside force" would have had him spinning down the middle of the front straight. Same reason why you're told to keep the brake in after you "think" you've stopped just in case you're still rolling, releasing the brake in that case might just put you in front of another car. I will point out that I an neither a physicist nor an instructor just a person with an opion.
#21
2 cents worth. I do not believe that in all spins should both feet be in. If it's an open area get back after 180, 360, and go. Yeah, you got to keep the motor running, but think past that as well.
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pushing the clutch it does two things, 1:keeps the engine alive so less time is spent getting yourself out of the way, and 2: prevent the engine from getting spun backwards. The gearbox should be fine, but the engines dont like it.
Champ car (Indy car) are sensitive to their engines getting spun backwards due to the ramp profiles of the camshafts and piston the valve clearances. Also their cams are driven by gear sets (no chain) and are 'lashed' for one direction only. Typically an engine will get changed automatically if spun backwards. Dont ask me how I know
I think 'both feet in' is a very general action thats recomended
Champ car (Indy car) are sensitive to their engines getting spun backwards due to the ramp profiles of the camshafts and piston the valve clearances. Also their cams are driven by gear sets (no chain) and are 'lashed' for one direction only. Typically an engine will get changed automatically if spun backwards. Dont ask me how I know
I think 'both feet in' is a very general action thats recomended