Motons - Where to buy
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Skip thanks, did a search. He already did a tally and I am on my way to poverty, but it worth 2 secs a lap so time to eat soup instead of going out. Larry, need your help dialing these in at VIR................ add it to your list.
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
With my limited brain power, if I went with triple adjustables, my car would start looking like this:
Well done!
#19
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Unless you have damper position sensors, I would get the 2 way adjustables or the Club Sport model. If you do have damper position sensors, then I would get the 4 way adjustables. As you can see from the plots below, the damper spends much more time at low speed velocities than it does high speed. The dark colors have been identified as low speed.
Last edited by Geoffrey; 01-22-2007 at 02:22 PM.
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Bobt993
Do share all the components you are getting for your setup and can you PM me with the total tally so I can get a feeling of how much of my retirement is going by-by.
Thanks,
Do share all the components you are getting for your setup and can you PM me with the total tally so I can get a feeling of how much of my retirement is going by-by.
Thanks,
#21
Originally Posted by Geoffrey
Unless you have damper position sensors, I would get the 2 way adjustables or the Club Sport model. If you do have damper position sensors, then I would get the 4 way adjustables. As you can see from the plots below, the damper spends much more time at low speed velocities than it does high speed. The dark colors have been identified as low speed.
If you can, please identify the sensor and supplier.
I will be running with adjustable shocks this year, and I might as well install the sensors since I already have the data logger. Apparently I too hate money.
#22
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What speed does the DL-1 log at and how much memory does it have? The damper position sensors need to be logged between 200-500hz depending on the application. The MoTeC damper position sensors are between $225 and $300 depending on length, mounting components, etc.
#23
Originally Posted by swftiii
Where is the most economical place to buy Motons? Where is the best place to buy them?
Just starting to look into them...
Thanks,
-Skip
Just starting to look into them...
Thanks,
-Skip
We are an authorized Moton dealer.
http://www.awe-tuning.com/
Email me if you would like further info.
mike@awe-tuning.com
#24
Originally Posted by Geoffrey
What speed does the DL-1 log at and how much memory does it have? The damper position sensors need to be logged between 200-500hz depending on the application. The MoTeC damper position sensors are between $225 and $300 depending on length, mounting components, etc.
Skip, I can split this off in a separate thread, but since you are getting adjustables I thought you might be interested in this as well . . .
Here are the stats.
Memory
Compact flash type I. Data in FAT16 PC format. Minimum card size 32MB, maximum card size 2GB (limited by FAT16).
GPS
Outputs position, speed, position accuracy and speed accuracy every 100ms with no interpolation. GPS tracking loops optimised for applications up to about 4g. tracking of all satellites in view.
Analogue Inputs
7 external inputs, all 12 bit resolution. 3 inputs are 12v full scale, 4 inputs are 5v full scale. All inputs are protected to twice maximum input voltage. 1 internal analogue input connected to the power supply voltage to measure battery voltage.
Frequency Inputs
4 external frequency inputs with a maximum input frequency >2kHz. Hardware dividers of 4 or 16 to average readings if required. Triggering voltage requires a low input of <1v and a high input of >4v and 15v maximum.
Lap Beacon Input
Triggering voltage requires a low input of <1v and a high input of >4v and 15v maximum.
Start Sample Input/Output
Input requires grounding to start sampling and again to stop sampling. Open collector output with a maximum current of 50mA
Power Supply Requirements
12v nominal input, minimum of 10v, maximum of 15v. Current consumption of about 180mA including GPS, dependant on compact flash card size
+5v Reference Out
Maximum current draw 100mA, tolerance 1%.
Ignition In Signal (High Level)
Triggered by fast voltage transients. Can be connected directly to the low tension side of the ignition coil, or capacitively coupled to the high-tension side.
Ignition In Signal (Low Level)
Triggering voltage requires a low input of <1v and a high input of >4v and 15v maximum. Suitable for connection directly to most ECU tacho outputs.
Maximum input frequency >300Hz.
Case Construction
Extruded aluminium anodised black, nominal case thickness 2mm. End panels CNC cut carbon fibre.
Connector Type
3.5mm pitch screw connectors
Main Processor
24MHz RISC with embedded flash program memory
GPS Serial Port
User configurable for baud rate and messages. Factory set at 4800 baud and outputting NMEA messages of $GPRMC and $GPGGA,
DL1 Serial Ports
2 separate ports. Port 1 fixed at a baud rate of 115200 baud. Whilst logging outputs all data from all channels at 100Hz. Also used for reflashing, diagnostics and configuration. Port 2 used for inputting RS232 data for storage during a run, from an ECU, OBDII adapter or any other compatible device.
Accelerometers
2 axis, precision digital output. Guaranteed 2g minimum full scale on both axes. Resolution of 0.005g. Optional 10g sensor available as a factory option.
Vibration
Factory tested at 25g, 50Hz sinusoid for 5 minutes (without compact flash card inserted).
Temperature
Factory tested from -20oC to 70oC
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Skip, Bob, and Todd
I am looking forward to hearing your summaries/findings/opinions after you have some time with these. I am still working on mine (setup/settings) and have 11 DE days on the JRZ$/monoball$.
Thanks,
Jim
I am looking forward to hearing your summaries/findings/opinions after you have some time with these. I am still working on mine (setup/settings) and have 11 DE days on the JRZ$/monoball$.
Thanks,
Jim
#26
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TD, looks like you'll be all set then provided the software can do the analysis. You'll use the 4 AV inputs with 0-5 volt resolution using 12bit A/D conversion.
#27
Originally Posted by Geoffrey
TD, looks like you'll be all set then. You'll use the 4 AV inputs with 0-5 volt resolution using 12bit A/D conversion.
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Originally Posted by Acropora
Don't forget the monoballs if you don't have them already bye bye wallet!
#29
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Originally Posted by forklift
Skip, Bob, and Todd
I am looking forward to hearing your summaries/findings/opinions after you have some time with these. I am still working on mine (setup/settings) and have 11 DE days on the JRZ$/monoball$.
Thanks,
Jim
I am looking forward to hearing your summaries/findings/opinions after you have some time with these. I am still working on mine (setup/settings) and have 11 DE days on the JRZ$/monoball$.
Thanks,
Jim
#30
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Originally Posted by bobt993
Jim, will see you at VIR. Look for the Larry Camp. Bring peanut M&Ms Larry likes the jumbo ones.
Thanks for the m&m tip!