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Arm restraints
OK, I'll admit I'm a dork right off the bat so you don't have to poke fun.
I have the Crow Enterprizes arm restraints, and a Sparco 6pt cam lock harness. Does anyone have a pic to show me how the arm restraints attach to the harness? I'm kind of baffeled by how it all comes together. Also, what's the best way to fit them on your arms. I assume you want a snug fit around the middle of your bicept. Is that right?
Just in case you are wondering. No, there were no instructions in the package.
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I have the Crow Enterprizes arm restraints, and a Sparco 6pt cam lock harness. Does anyone have a pic to show me how the arm restraints attach to the harness? I'm kind of baffeled by how it all comes together. Also, what's the best way to fit them on your arms. I assume you want a snug fit around the middle of your bicept. Is that right?
Just in case you are wondering. No, there were no instructions in the package.
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Get positioned comfortably in the car.
The idea is that you don't want to be able to lift your arms too high, so adjust the straps to the best position on your arm to prevent that. I'd think on the biceps would allow you to get your hands fairly high over your head.
The rings would go right next to the cam lock. -- pass the lap belt thru the ring and into the cam lock. At least that's how it worked on the skippy cars.
Have fun out there.
The idea is that you don't want to be able to lift your arms too high, so adjust the straps to the best position on your arm to prevent that. I'd think on the biceps would allow you to get your hands fairly high over your head.
The rings would go right next to the cam lock. -- pass the lap belt thru the ring and into the cam lock. At least that's how it worked on the skippy cars.
Have fun out there.
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I believe the straps go around the forearms. Mine are too small to go around my biceps (sparco). I ended up not wearing them. I hated the feeling. Not smart, I know. But I was too confined.
A word of caution, get used to them well before you go out there. They are tough to get used to. Practice a few panic escapes.
A word of caution, get used to them well before you go out there. They are tough to get used to. Practice a few panic escapes.
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They definitely belong on your forearms, not your biceps. The metal "O" on the end of the strap gets hooked onto the shoulder belt buckle end just before you plug it into the cam lock, one arm per shoulder belt. You then want to adjust the strap length so that your arms can not reach outside the car roof (if it were open, which it will not be at our DEs). The catch here is that you need to leave your left arm enough slack to be able to reach out the left window to give other cars the "point by" or to give other track signals. Find me Wed. nite at the hotel or Thurs. morning at the track and I can explain in person if you want. Or email me if you want.
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Kim
The R/T 2000 don't have them either. They are driver supplied.
Don't worry about point-bys in racing, only in DEs
You're gonna love the sequential box. It takes a session to get used to, then it's a ball.
The R/T 2000 don't have them either. They are driver supplied.
Don't worry about point-bys in racing, only in DEs
You're gonna love the sequential box. It takes a session to get used to, then it's a ball.
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I think they work best on the forearm, but some will just not stay. The Simpson's are a shiny (slippery) material. I use a set that have rather rough cloth so they stay in place. Forearm location gives you greater reach in the cockpit while keeping your arms inside. If they go on the bicep, it is really hard to find a balance between mobility and restraint.
The ones with rings are best, IMO. Each ring can slip over each shoulder belt buckle as you snap it in place. If the have loops (Simpson) they MUST go around the lap belt. If you put these on the shoulder harness, they can ride up and negate any safety aspect.
I bet that was more than you wanted to know, but I will throw in one more tip for free. Once in the car, if you wear these on your forearms, you can slip them off, since you will contantly forget to adjust a mirror or something else you can't reach (ask me how I know).
The ones with rings are best, IMO. Each ring can slip over each shoulder belt buckle as you snap it in place. If the have loops (Simpson) they MUST go around the lap belt. If you put these on the shoulder harness, they can ride up and negate any safety aspect.
I bet that was more than you wanted to know, but I will throw in one more tip for free. Once in the car, if you wear these on your forearms, you can slip them off, since you will contantly forget to adjust a mirror or something else you can't reach (ask me how I know).
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Kim,
I'm with Mike - you will really enjoy the RT/2000. You get wings (but they don't really do anyting but look cool), slicks (hard compound but way more grip than you have ever driven) and a great sequential box. They will probably tell you to use the clutch for downshifts and not use it for upshifts (you preload the shifter, and lift slightly - it drops right into the next gear). At least TRY some clutchless downshifts - really fun and much faster than using the clutch.
I'm with Mike - you will really enjoy the RT/2000. You get wings (but they don't really do anyting but look cool), slicks (hard compound but way more grip than you have ever driven) and a great sequential box. They will probably tell you to use the clutch for downshifts and not use it for upshifts (you preload the shifter, and lift slightly - it drops right into the next gear). At least TRY some clutchless downshifts - really fun and much faster than using the clutch.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Radical Racer:
<strong> Once in the car, if you wear these on your forearms, you can slip them off, since you will contantly forget to adjust a mirror or something else you can't reach (ask me how I know).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />
You must have been watching me on the grid at the last SCCA race.
The part I don't understand is why people with closed cocpit cars (993, 944 or other Porsche track cars except for 914) are worried about arm restraints?
<strong> Once in the car, if you wear these on your forearms, you can slip them off, since you will contantly forget to adjust a mirror or something else you can't reach (ask me how I know).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />
You must have been watching me on the grid at the last SCCA race.
The part I don't understand is why people with closed cocpit cars (993, 944 or other Porsche track cars except for 914) are worried about arm restraints?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Silver Bullet:
[QB]But Mike, for the HWFM RC members, this makes it difficult to point everyone by....
QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Excellent point. I'm working on a solution and will be posting on a separate thread shortly.
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[QB]But Mike, for the HWFM RC members, this makes it difficult to point everyone by....
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by E. J. - 993 Alumni:
<strong>The part I don't understand is why people with closed cocpit cars (993, 944 or other Porsche track cars except for 914) are worried about arm restraints?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Ask Carl Young if he wishes he was wearing arm restraints when his 911 rolled (at close to 200 mph). His arm went out the window, and got a little squished when the car rolled over on it. Arm restraints might have helped.
<strong>The part I don't understand is why people with closed cocpit cars (993, 944 or other Porsche track cars except for 914) are worried about arm restraints?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Ask Carl Young if he wishes he was wearing arm restraints when his 911 rolled (at close to 200 mph). His arm went out the window, and got a little squished when the car rolled over on it. Arm restraints might have helped.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by DJ:
<strong>Ask Carl Young if he wishes he was wearing arm restraints when his 911 rolled (at close to 200 mph). His arm went out the window, and got a little squished when the car rolled over on it. Arm restraints might have helped.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Okay, fair enough. Did his window net fail? Or did his arm find its way out the little hole in the front of the net?
<strong>Ask Carl Young if he wishes he was wearing arm restraints when his 911 rolled (at close to 200 mph). His arm went out the window, and got a little squished when the car rolled over on it. Arm restraints might have helped.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Okay, fair enough. Did his window net fail? Or did his arm find its way out the little hole in the front of the net?
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The restraints go on the arm at the elbow, (just above) leaving the forarm free, but not free enough to end up over your head. I said arm, not hand. You can probably touch the top of your helmut with your hand. This should keep you arm in the car, for the most part, in the event of a roll over. There are alot of things your arm can hit hard enough to break it if your arm is allowed to fly around in an impact situation. Several WinstonCup drivers have suffered hand and lower arm injuries in hard crashes, including getting the hand between the halo bar and the ground in a violent flip. I think of the net as protection from incomming debris as much as protection from parts of you flying out.
