Geo

1. (tie) Prost
1. (tie) Senna

I simply cannot choose between the two. While I think Senna had more sheer speed, Prost was the absolute master of only using as much of the car (especially tires) as he had to. He never abused the car unnecessarily, yet he could grab it by the scruff of the neck if needed. Both were excellent test drivers. Nothing to choose between the two IMHO.

3. Fangio - as dominating in his time as Scummie, but without the BS drama and cheating

4. M. Schumacher - I am NOT a fan (I downright don't like him), but I damned sure respect his talent, however abused.

5. Clark

pole position

I guess you want to make this personal but I have attended F1 races as early as the late 60's ...........and for the rest of your post I am not going to lower myself to that level.

MOANtoya ? LOL

pcar964

Haha Montoya? I have to agree, that's laughable! He doesn't appear on a top 10, top 20, or even top 30 list imho. Give me a break

A.Wayne

I guess comprehension is lacking here , it is a list of drivers that i have seen in action live, but i guess this is too much for you and pole to understand.

and as i have said if you did not see juan in a Indycar you have not seen anything , but i guess he is a lacky, you must be right as it is against this kind of talent the MS won 7 w/c

A.Wayne

yeah i guess your comments where not meant to be personal .

hacker-pschorr

Ok, this thread is out in left field

How about a fun question:

How many F1 drivers have won the Indy 500 (back when that actually meant something).

Barfly

For a twist...

Also, from 1951-1960, the Indy 500 was part of the F1 season.

Here are some F1 champions that have raced at Indy:

Jack Brabham 1959 &1960 F1 champ
raced in the Indy 500 in 1961 : 6th place
1964 : 20th place
1969: 24th
1970 : 13th

Graham Hill 1962 & 1968 F1 champ
raced in the Indy 500 in 1966 : Winner
1967 : 32nd
1968 : 19th

Jim Clark 1963 & 1965 champ
raced in the indy 500 in 1963 : 2nd place
1964 : 24th
1965 : Winner
1966 : 2nd
1967 : 32nd

Denny Hulme 1967 champ
raced in the indy 500 in 1967 : 4th
1968 : 4th
1969 : 18th
1971 : 17th

Jackie Stewart 1969, 1971,1973 champ
raced in the indy 500 in 1966 : 6th
1967 : 18th

Jochen Rindt 1970 champ
raced in indy 500 in 1967 : 24th
1968 : 32nd

Emerson Fittipaldi : 1972 & 1974 champ
raced in the indy 500 in 1984 : 32nd
1985 : 13th
1986 : 7th
1987 : 16th
1988 : 2nd
1989 : Winner
1990 : 3rd
1991 : 11th
1992 : 24th
1993 : Winner
1994 : 17th
1995 : bumped on bump day

Mario Andretti 1978 F1 champ
1969 Indy 500 winner
and many many Indy 500's

Nigel Mansell : 1992 F1 champ
raced in the 1993 Indy 500 : 3rd
1994 : 22nd

*courtesy of Sam Clemens*

Barfly

Emerson Fittipaldi and Mario Andretti are two that really standout in their past success, both with F1 and the Indy 500.

multi21

I suspected it, but after reading Whine Pablo Montoya tops your list above the others you listed, I know for certain your on drugs. BACK AWAY FROM THE CRACK PIPE!!!!!!!!!! I saw your boy take out his teammate live this year at Indy along with 1/3 of the field. I've seen him live on 3 other occasions in both the McLaren and BMW. There is a reason he is a backmarker in NASCAR. He flat out sucks, was overrated, bitched about everyone and everything except the guy in the mirror.

You want to talk about facts? Lets talk then.

Fact: Michael Schumacher not only beat his own teammate, he beat everyone else on the grid. FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Fact: MS has more championships than anyone else. FACT.

Fact: Were his tactics questionable and sometimes ugly on the track? Yes. FACT.

You scream that no one else knows anything about anything, but your one of the many MS haters. You can't look beyond your hatred.

You complain that he manipulated the system and that his teammates got the bad luck with mechanical gremlins like he orchestrated it himself. Laughable.

You mention drivers, but never the entire picture of what it takes to be a World Champion, let alone a multiple WC. You fail to look at the team dynamic.

You fail to mention that MS came from a mediocre Benetton team to be WC. He then went over to Ferrari, bringing his guys to build up the once lowly Ferrari to utter domination, the likes the entire sport has not ever seen before and may well never see again. Unlike his partying brother, he does not spend long nights in the bar before a race weekend, he meets with suppliers, vendors, goes over the data acquisition, has been and still is the most fit on the entire grid, not just compared to his teammate. There are so many things that go into a WC. Senna may have won his WCs with a good car, but he didn't have a hand in building the car and team in the same way MS did.

As Pole Position said, it does not make sense to put 2 #1 drivers on the same team. Those days are long over and it started before MS got into the sport. Its the way it is.

Finally, you don't win 7 WC and almost an 8th by accident or just being a good driver. FACT!!!!!!!!!

A.Wayne

M3pete,
There are 2 list , go back and read, there is a serious comprehension problems with the MS guys. SO I CAN UNDERSTAND

My last list is best drives i have witnessed live and it is based on Montoya in a Indy car . Now if you want to use this year F1 grandprix to based all that Montoya is , then it explains who and what you are. also it is my list , my opinions , my impressions , but instead of debate you want to ridicule with personal attacks...
WHERE IS YOUR LIST ?
So here goes, i have seen your Bwoy Ms do a lot of stupid things over the years , so i guess MS has never ran into the back of someone , ohh less not forget Ms trying to pass irvine on the dirty line flew off the track and broke his F***king Leg . What about running into the back of DC at f***King Spa , then blaming coulthard. If coulthard had floored him in the pits , he would have made my list

WHat i saw this year is a man in the best car on the grid by a wide margin and
still could not win ,the year before , with no pit stops , he was nowhere a putz , WHY? because his driving style destroy tires and he use's pitstops to make his passes. But you would not understand that , as your hatred for anyone's opinion who differs from your's, coupled with your ignorance of the sport, clouds the pinhead... and finally your notion that a team can win by having one good driver is the height of stupidity , as ferrari would have won this year if they had equal drivers , where renault , with one good driver and a big lead almost lost it it is not by coincidence that Ms biggest success came after having 2 top drivers at ferrari , michael used barrichello to his best advantage .
enuff said !
and Ohh, by the way ,PLEASE RETURN MY CRACK PIPE WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED WITH IT BATTYBWOY

Jim Child

If you define F1 driver as being a driver with at least one F1 start then you get the following list of F1 drivers who have won the Indy 500:

Clark
Hill
Andretti
Donohue
Sullivan
Rahal
Fittipaldi
Villeneuve
Cheever
Montoya