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Old 11-13-2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JimB
Doing much to the RSA is tough because it has such a winning record it's hard to argue it needs help. It did win more races by far than any other C car this year.
Everyone knows that the fastest guys drive RSAs.
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Old 11-13-2006 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Everyone knows that the fastest guys drive RSAs.
Finally something we can all agree on.
Old 11-13-2006 | 04:45 PM
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You are every bit as much a gentleman as you are a racer. I hope that you can come up with something competitive for next year.
Old 11-13-2006 | 06:33 PM
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Thanks Larry. Not sure what I'm going to do next year but I'll figure something out. I might just race my car as is and wait out the 2008 rules. Or I might pull off the X51 package and stay in C. The 3.6L actually has a much better torque curve. It just might be a better race engine than the X51. Or I might add brakes, etc and go chase the NASA GTS4 national title. I'm sure we'll cross paths somewhere along the line.
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Old 11-13-2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Everyone knows that the fastest guys drive RSAs.
So that's my problem!! I guess now I need to find a good RSA to race next year.
Old 11-13-2006 | 07:27 PM
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As best I can tell, there are a grand total of 4 993 RSCSs being run in the whole country. They did not win at Lime Rock, Mid Ohio, Watkins Glen, Mosport or Summit Point. Heck, even Larry beat all the RSCSs at Watkins Glen, which is a power track (I too ran faster times in my lowly D car). So I don't think this is some unstoppable force.

All power packages were an oversight in the rules. IMHO, a person should not have to add a power package to be competitive. Should the 993 RSCSs be in C? Heck no...they should get bumped or put in a new class. But 2 wrongs (X51s & RSCSs in C) don't make a right. When I wrote the draft rule, I had never even seen nor run against a 993RSCS, so I was not attempting to banish X51s and leave the class to the ultra rare cars. Next year I will submit another rule on a specific calass for low volume cars like the 964RSs, 964 Rs 3.8s, 964 USA Cups w/interior, 993 RSCSs, and GT3 Mk1s. Either that or create a D+ and a C+ class.
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Coiln, I hope you don't stick me in the D+. Is the deal still in process?
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Originally Posted by 38D
Heck, even Larry beat all the RSCSs at Watkins Glen, which is a power track (I too ran faster times in my lowly D car).
Even Larry? Thanks, buddy.
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Originally Posted by Ernie J
Coiln, I hope you don't stick me in the D+.
Let's see, here's how I would realign the classes:

D
996 3.4s
Cayman
91-92 C2 turbos
930s
RSAs
USA Cups

C
Prepared D cars (like RSAs)
3.6 996s
997s
944 Turbo Cup
3.6 Turbo

B
GT3 Mk1
996 X51s
993 RSCSs
993TT


A
All cars currently in B

I would allow conversions of cars. Someone with a RSA should be able to convert to a USA Cup spec car by doing a certain number of required changes. It would not be that hard to come up with a list (with part numbers) of the required changes. Things like light glass should not be required.


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Coiln, I hope you don't stick me in the D+. Is the deal still in process?
Seller has a good chunk of my money, so the deal is basically done. I need to get him the rest and arrange shipping.


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Even Larry? Thanks, buddy.
I thought you would like that .
Old 11-13-2006 | 09:19 PM
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One of the issues is that if you added another class or two between the current B thru D cars is that at many races you might only have one or two cars in your class. What fun would that be, I liked being able to beat cars that should have been faster. The Euro cars like the 993RS or 964 RS could be a non issue if PCA allowed your stock 993 or 964 to run at the euro weight as a prepared mod.
Old 11-13-2006 | 10:17 PM
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Colin - I REALLY like your classes above!
Old 11-13-2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 38D
Let's see, here's how I would realign the classes:

D
996 3.4s
Cayman
91-92 C2 turbos
930s
RSAs
USA Cups

C
Prepared D cars (like RSAs)
3.6 996s
997s
944 Turbo Cup
3.6 Turbo

B
GT3 Mk1
996 X51s
993 RSCSs
993TT


A
All cars currently in B

:.
Very nice. Now why didn't you propose that this year?

Greg is right about the size of the fields but they should grow over time.
Old 11-13-2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 38D
Let's see, here's how I would realign the classes:

D
996 3.4s
Cayman
91-92 C2 turbos
930s
RSAs
USA Cups

C
Prepared D cars (like RSAs)
3.6 996s
997s
944 Turbo Cup
3.6 Turbo

B
GT3 Mk1
996 X51s
993 RSCSs
993TT


A
All cars currently in B
So, does that mean that plain jane 993's go back to E????

George
Old 11-14-2006 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DJF1
The only thing that this rule will do is to take off the cheating anxiety of some 993/964 drivers that I know who were already running with a LWF.
How strict is race scrutineering? To check for a LWF all you would need is a flashlight, you could probably do it without even jacking up the left rear.
Old 11-16-2006 | 10:46 AM
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Or maybe just a blip of the throttle while the car is idling? Wouldn't that give the scrut's a clue that perhaps they should look more closely?


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