FTS

Veloce Raptor

That is the former Anchor Racing M3.

Flying Finn

God damn that's awesome! Unbelievable even, great job Mark & that 928 of yours!

mark kibort

actually, the boost level was still close to the 550hp output, but a smaller turbo.

the evo, even in its best form, with randy driving would be in the 1:32s at best.
they only got to 1:34s with new toyos and slightly less hp. so, based on SpeedGT times last week, it would get killed. 30th or so????

the BMW, was running 318 rear wheel hp or so. (same as my 928)

MK

mark kibort

Hey, where did you get this??? cool!

thats before i made my big move to the inside for 1:40 seconds of glory!

mk

mark kibort

Yes it is! I think the #92 car (sofro and Munson, or hainer/Said)

its got some good power. Here is the first few laps video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRG6Y791iBE

MK

FTS

I wish I could claim credit, but I am on the east coast

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=134897

A.Wayne

Getting HP out of an evo is the easy part , there limitation is always the chassis .
I have never seen an ITE race here in fla with evo's etc. is it exclusive to the west coast ..

karlooz

where's the car classification rules for ITE? can't find it on http://www.sfrscca.org/

Veloce Raptor

Yeah, it was the 92 car, Said/Hainer. I drove that car once at Gingerman. It was exceptional.......sigh.

mark kibort

The rules are pretty vague. Production vehicle on DOTs (non tubed frame) and safety equip. rules for ITX,ITS, etc apply

mk

karlooz

so does that mean anything goes? i looked in ITA-S and no mention of my car. funny thing is they list boxsters with 4 cylinders and carbs LOL. i guess SCCA is not very porsche friendly.

mark kibort

Yes, anything goes on DOTs! pretty interesting field. we have the most "normal" looking cars of the weekend, the most in field, (except for the spec classes like miatas and formula cars) sometimes having over 20 cars in ITE class in a 60 car field! vipers, vets, cameros, lexus, 350zs, porsches, s2000s, evos, ferarris, bmws, etc!
Its like world challege for on the cheap
MK

mark kibort

I got into a discussion with Randy Pobst and the team owner that he was testing for regarding the always misunderstood, flywheel toruqe vs HP subject.

Of course, Randy,, the competitor that he is, had to mention that i had a porsche V8 with all that torque and thats why i passed him at the start! Of course, the team manager of the 2002 BMW E46 M3, devopled to Grand Am Cup GS specs ( 315 to 340rwhp is common and costs of the car are near $80 to 100k) continued to chime in about having only 250ft-lbs of torque and the 928 having 300ft-lbs+. Forget the fact that I got a jump and draft from the 550hp evo at the start and never was able to close on Randy again on a straight after he passed me as he had better turn in and near the same acceleration while i was having major handling issues with that GT3 wing)

Of course, the first thing i came back with was, HP determines rear wheel toruqe at any speed. (regardless of engine torque) acceleration is proportional to power at any speed. (remember the 'ole, acceleration =power/(mass x velocity) identity?)

so, we all agreed that if the 928 had a broader hp curve, this would be an advantage, and this clearly can be true. HOWEVER, see the curve comparisons for a 928 and a M3 with near the same peak HP of 285.

(note: it would be nice to have a better cleaner 928S4 curve at this level if anyone has one.)

Anyway, here are the two curves of a stock M3 rated at 333flywheel hp and a stock '87 928 S4 rated at 315hp. both have no mods.

Mark

Seth Thomas

Mark, I don't fully understand what you are trying to say in in the thread above. The two charts and the correlation you are trying to draw from there isn't laid out well. Can you explain this a little bit better for me.