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Old 10-26-2006 | 11:06 PM
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I have 2 new front SO6's for VIR. What can I expect? I have only run with used ones previously.

Will they be the best there going to be fresh on the rims? Do they need scuffed in or will I need to heat cycle them first for 24 hours? Thanks.
Old 10-26-2006 | 11:20 PM
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You should scrub them in with 8-10 laps then let them sit a full 24 hours before the next use. I found lower cold presures worked well for me...I started out at 23 cold. The car had annoying understeer when I used the Hoosier recommended cold pressures. My first set of SO6's almost caused me to give up on Hoosier's....Once I got the pressures down they seemed pretty darn good. Car weighs 2750 as raced.
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The new Hoosiers, R6s, should be heat cycled as Brant said. I have gone through a couple of sets and like them, but also find that lower temps than Hoosier says to use are better for me. I liked them 36-38 hot on my 3150lb 993. Unlike previous Hoosiers, they heat cycle out before I cord them.
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I'll be using the R06 for the first time in a few weeks, and so anticipating a ten pound rise (give or take), starting psi on 3000 +/- pound car should be in and around 26/28?

Wow, never have I started so low on a non-slick.
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Good starting point I would think...Play around with them...lower cold pressure is better in my experience.
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I'm with Bob on these. Below 40 psi hot seems to be my best range. 36 to 38 psi. after that they get slippery with my fat 993 tt.
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That's good to hear because when I got a set I thought it was just me- anything over 38 hot was decidedly greasy when it used to be 40. 36 was spot on. I did not heat sink them and have used them for five DEs this past Summer (but have rotated and flipped them regularly). Next weekend will be their last. I really like them and will say everybody wonders why I'm so fast this year...well it ain't me.

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Originally Posted by Hoosier_Daddy
I'll be using the R06 for the first time in a few weeks, and so anticipating a ten pound rise (give or take), starting psi on 3000 +/- pound car should be in and around 26/28?

Wow, never have I started so low on a non-slick.
HD, on my 993 I found that they were very similar to MPSCs, if you have ever run them, when it comes to cold/hot temps (except for the warm-up period required by the MPSCs). Hoosier says start at ~ 30psi (1% of car weight), but that got me to at least 40 when really pushing it. Getting over 40 will give you that Rhinoceros-on-a-wet-clay-bank feeling.
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Originally Posted by renvagn
I have 2 new front SO6's for VIR. What can I expect? I have only run with used ones previously.
What are you running on the back? I had a pair get mixed with 05's and it did not feel good.
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I am driving an "89" 951 with a race suspension, 3000lbs approximately. My rears are S04's. In the past I have found a 6-10 pound increase in pressure depending on ambient temps, track and pre session tire temp stagger. For VIR I ran the rears 1 pound less than the fronts to equalize them. The SO4's felt best at 40 to 41 hot. So am I going to have a problem with handling because of the models and drastic difference in temps? I was told I wasn't when I purchased them, but also told the SO5's were a mess.
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Mark,

Just out of curiosity, why not just use Toyos for DEs and save those slicks for if and when you start racing? Seems like Toyos get you 90-95% there and they last so much longer that the cost differential is remarkable. No reason to squeeze those last few seconds out at a DE, no?

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Originally Posted by Bull
HD, on my 993 I found that they were very similar to MPSCs, if you have ever run them, when it comes to cold/hot temps (except for the warm-up period required by the MPSCs). Hoosier says start at ~ 30psi (1% of car weight), but that got me to at least 40 when really pushing it. Getting over 40 will give you that Rhinoceros-on-a-wet-clay-bank feeling.
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Oh God! Not that old "Rhinoceros-on-a-wet-clay-bank" feeling!

Seriously... thanks for the advise. If there is ANY problem I know just where to find you in the paddock!!

FYI - with the Hoosier GAC tires I was getting exactly a 10 pound rise.

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Old 10-27-2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by renvagn
I have 2 new front SO6's for VIR. What can I expect?
You can expect lethal oversteer, especially if the S04's you have on the rear have a lot of heat cycles on them. Do yourself a favor and get a set of rear S06's to match your fronts. Others are correct about the lower cold pressures. You want mid 30's hot, so don't start with anything more than 30 cold. I generally see a 6 to 9 pound rise, but YMMV.
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At an ambient temp of ~65-75 F

Cold 28 psi
Hot 35-36 psi, I run 35 psi.
This is on my 2680 LBS RSA

If it's colder out (Below 55 F) you will have to start at a higher cold pressure.

FYI, I got 885 Miles and 30 Heat Cycles out of my last set of R6's
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Originally Posted by David K.
FYI, I got 885 Miles and 30 Heat Cycles out of my last set of R6's
That's about what I got from mine, but I got three times that from RA1s . .


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