Ptech1

Sounds good. And ideally, yes. But another solution is to look them over for damage/wear (focus on wear holes, not the tread blocks) and take some photos. This eliminates the chance of picking up a nail etc on your track tires, and after being used properly, they don't exactly ride or operate well on the street.

Mbren1979

I will gladly take you up on this offer!

Mbren1979

Perfect. Thanks for the help. talk soon

jayzbird

A few thoughts having tracked a 996tt extensively.

That’s a lot of camber, esp up front. Mine felt pretty good -1.9f, -2.1R both street & track. Yours may be too aggressive for your level (no disrespect intended!)

I’m not sure the low NT01 pressures apply to heavier cars. Try 34/36 or 25 cold all around.

What size tires? Mismatched can cause psm issues. 235/40F 315/30R are the closest diameters in NT-01 on stock wheels.

Mbren1979

A few thoughts having tracked a 996tt extensively.

That’s a lot of camber, esp up front. Mine felt pretty good -1.9f, -2.1R both street & track. Yours may be too aggressive for your level (no disrespect intended!) No disrespect taken. Thats why i brought my issue here....to learn from more experienced guys. The specs choosen were not something i came up with. I had found a great deal on Nitto's and posted about it on the 996 Turbo forum since i am running the same size and a few people at the time happen to be asking when they commonly go on sale. That thread turned into a track recommendation thread quickly and the advice i got was from other guys that have also been extensively tracking 996 turbos. However i understand i may not be ready for it and that may also be a piece of why it feels off to me.

I’m not sure the low NT01 pressures apply to heavier cars. Try 34/36 or 25 cold all around. This sounds like about the same as everyone else has said who has tracked these cars. Hopefully at Sebring i can get an instructor who can help me dial pressures in better.

What size tires? Mismatched can cause psm issues. 235/40F 315/30R are the closest diameters in NT-01 on stock wheels. Nothing is stock about my car. entire suspension has been changed. Everything is fully adjustable. I run 2 sets of Apex SM10 wheels. One set for the street and another for the track. The track set is 18x9" ET46 up front and 18x12" ET45 rear. Tire sizes are 245/40R18 and 315/30R18. I was told these are the closest to the original and what i must run since i am AWD. Was told if i removed the AWD i could play around more with sizes.

Olemiss540

One other thing to consider is NT01s are especially strange feeling (read not grippy) for the first few heat cycles until they are cycled in. I honestly have driven NT01s in all sorts of pressures from 32 hot to 38 hot and the difference isnt THAT drastic until you are 10-15 min into the session. NT01s are WELL known to be an amazing and consistent tire that LOVES slip angle in order to get maximum grip. You are running in a car that probably tends toward oversteer when driving near the limit on tires that arent great until you get some slip angle (harder to do in a 911).

I would not worry AT ALL until your next event is over. Keep the car the same and now that the tires are heat cycled I bet you start to have some serious fun. Keep pressures anywhere around 32-38 psi hot and you will be fine at your experience level IMO.

Mbren1979

Thanks for the Tips. Helps me know the problem is only 80% the driver..... I gots a lot of learning to do.

Olemiss540

Dont we all! Getting a Pcar myself (for HPDE) soon and so I am starting back from ground zero. Let us know how the next event goes please!

Mbren1979

HA HA HA... thats my fear.... I will finally get really decent and then when my BMW is ready next year i will look like an idiot again in a new car.

anthony42hat

I tracked my 997.1s for a while and the transition to my BMW was pretty easy. The BMW is such a balanced platform it is really an easy car to drive. If your BMW is going to be high HP (mine is not, I have the stock S52 motor with a restrictor plate so only making about 220hp) you may have to be a bit judicious with how quickly and hard you get back to w/o throttle. In the 911 I knew it was going to hook up.

Mbren1979

That is the comfort of my 911. 315 HP combined with AWD and 315/30R18 tires makes it stick pretty good. My E36 is expected to have 400 to 500 crank HP. I just ordered my Hard Motorsports Fender flares so hopefully we can squeeze a 275 under all 4 corners. I'm sure traction is going to be an issue with that car when its done.

Olemiss540

The e36 is EASY to drive at the limit compared to what I understand a 996 to be. The biggest downside with he e36 is going to be in the braking zones a they require a serious amount of front camber due to their Mac strut design which greatly impacts traction when braking. The e36 with that power level will be much more of a "roll on the throttle" type of car near the apex but there is no such thing as SNAP, just balanced oversteer/understeer easy to control with the throttle. Mine understeers a touch on turn in which takes a bit of trail braking to overcome, but once it takes a set you can just feel the car as it transitions through to track out.

I am expecting quite the opposite my first track day with the 996 gt3.....

Mbren1979

Not quite at that point yet, but any suggestions on suspensions? i hear KW and Ground Control work very well with the E36. I also have seen a few thread where people actually put 996 calipers on their E36. Sounds interesting.

Olemiss540

I would go straight to MCS. I personally would go for singles just because I am not the best fiddler, but everyone says to get double adjustable.

If you are not ready to spend the 3Grand, watch bimmerforums and pickup a set of lightly used Ground Control or TcKlines for 1200 until you are ready to upgrade.

Stock e36 m3 (or 330i if nonm) brakes are perfect. If you want to try a BBK, I have a wilwood setup with almost new calipers you could use. Have 3 sets of DTC70 pads as well. PM me if you want more input. Pad costs are the main reason I didnt want to go with the Porsche Calipers.

anthony42hat

I have MCS (Motion Control) and love it. My next upgrade may very well be 996 calipers!