TREMPER

Its not a secret if you read the initial emails. My typing skills are good enough to explain the reasoning for a possible change in the Sunday schedule....
Amazing all this talk on Rennlist and I have received no calls about the issue...So much for one one conversations...

LuigiVampa

Pete,

I have held positions, including chair and vice-chair for various governmental, civic and charitable organizations and understand the frustrations of making everyone happy. Many times I would get upset that people who did nothing but complain, and never actually helped with anything, questioned my part in many decisions. The fact that I was not being paid, and was volunteering my time, would really set me off. So on behalf of myself, and probably a bunch of other people, I want to say I mean no disrespect by my comments in this thread. I had to make plenty of unpopular decisions and had more than one nasty letter to the editor written about me in time.

All that being said, I always tried to make sure I wasn't just listening to the loudest voices in the room, which many times were different from what the majority wanted, and also to make sure I fully explained the reasons for the actions I took. People may not have liked or agreed with every decision, but I explained it.

With that long preamble, I think many of us are just asking why something which did not appear to be problematic was changed? Do you need one of us to call you and then provide the explanation here on RL? It would appear that this thread is a good way to communicate with many of us at one time instead of piecemeal.

Many thanks,

Todd

dan212

Had a very nice chat with Pete Tremper. I was apparently only the second person to actually call him - which he thought was pretty peculiar considering this typical 4 page (thus far) Rennlist debate.

He explained the reasoning behind the 60 minute Sunday Enduro - including the percentage of cars that drop out on Sunday. A lot of thought into what is candidly an experiment. And not set in stone.

I explained why I preferred a 90 minute event. He said the one other call said much the same thing.
Got an opinion? Voice it

Streak

Well that was me. I told Pete I favored the 90 minute enduro. We spoke about a range of things. Pete's got stories! Pete is a good listener and this is not set in stone as Dan said above. I would hate to see it go.

esscape26

I like practice, qualifying, and co-driving the enduro, so I don't understand the need for like 6 sprints to feel like one has accomplished something or getting one's money's worth. It is known in sports that lack of practice combined with only competing leads to some raggedy skills, because you, appropriately of course, "cut corners" or whatever is needed to win, while in practice you can develop skills, or as I say, "put gas in the tank" (two puns ). Yes, the fun race or school could be handled in some different way. YES< rotate groups in the race schedule!

However, not calling Mr.Tremper personally should not be the sole indicator of my dismay about the enduro length. No offense, Pete, but right now, tired of personal conversations with people in the club that don't result in what I talked about being addressed. Public comment and discussion is always good, and those who want to call and those who want to listen, more power to you, you guys are awesome.

PS. Maybe too many advance days prior to racing event are contributing to some of the issues.

DDun911

I vote, I don't care. I just want to race 30,60 0r 90 they all have there own attractions. I never understand why people don't do the fun race, I figure there all fun races with the same awesome prize money.

wellcoached

I think its already been proposed ; I would be in favor of keeping the 90 min enduro But run it Saturday

LuigiVampa

I've spoken with Pete a few times and had an in depth conversations about what went into this decision. It appears that Zone 1 is going to try a 60 minute enduro this year. They even tossed around the idea of going to three sprints but felt that keeping an enduro, albeit a 60 minute one, was meeting everyone half-way.

It seems one of the main drivers to this decision is the fact that attendance is down across the board at most PCA races. You can talk about a lot of the reasons but I think AER, and series like it, are eating into PCA's core group.

Accordingly, in an effort to get more people to register for the enduro they are shortening it to 60 minutes.

While I feel strongly that a track as awesome as Watkins Glen DESERVES a 90 minute enduro, listening to Pete, and the choices he needed to make, I understand why they want to try this. I'm not happy about it, but I respect the decesion.

I appreciate the time Pete spent on the phone with me and asking me what I thought.

Fumes

drive418

Before you send that sternly worded email, you should be aware Vicki is no longer the PCA Club Racing Chair.

Fumes

LuigiVampa

I stated pretty much everything you said to him. The main point being you may lose as many people as you gain by this change. I also brought up that certain cars can't make it the full hour but he said that there were not many.

My only point, in regards to Pete, is that he is trying to do the right thing. I don't like the final decision but he is not making the change just for the sake of change.

That being said, I hope it goes back to 90 minutes in 2020, but I don't know how to make that happen. Do I deliberately stay away from a track I love or do I go and falsely give the impression that I am OK with this?

sbelles

So this is final now? ****!

Fumes

PLNewman

I will do the Sprints and skip the Enduro.