Originally Posted by PLNewman

I love it when Streak (Hunt) begins a comment with: "I'm not trying to be a dick here but..."

Does that mean he admits he's a dick, but he's not trying? Just axin'

Originally Posted by Gary R.

So much for that!

Pass the Grey Poupon please....

Originally Posted by Horus2000

I'm not sure exactly what I said that offended you, but yes I get it that many people are involved in putting on a racing weekend. They all have to travel and they all face the same challenges as me, and some much much bigger challenges.

My point was explaining why I've chosen to skip some enduros due to the same travel challenges. I'd love it if we could keep 90 minute enduros while also encouraging more attendance (and getting everyone out of there as early as reasonable on a Sunday). Given the risky financials involved for most club races, a priority should be put on participation including the extra fees for the enduro. No, I don't think we should cut into DE time. But there might be ways to support more race time (not just track time). Other organizations have managed to figure out the rookie school without fun races. If you have 3 race groups, each running a 25 minute fun race - cancelling those would net back 90 minutes once you include transition time. Same with the Sunday warm ups, particularly in those places that have restricted hours to run engines in the morning. Combining those warm ups could allow for earlier enduro starts, depending on the circumstances.

Just trying to find solutions here, not looking for sympathy for an 'arrive and drive' guy.

Originally Posted by Streak

I apologize for my tone. I will say that if you read something while smiling it sounds much different

I am just flabbergasted at the mere thought of cutting back a fantastic race weekend at a truly legendary track.

Originally Posted by esscape26

First the message was to make things interesting and exciting, to which the answer was two more sprints. (No, please, no.) And then it was about catering to those who want to leave early. And never mind with the latter, many people get to the Glen early for the prior days and then want to leave early! So they have leave from work prior to the event but can't take leave on Monday or work from home. (I don't buy it.) And then about refueling...

I wrote to the chair FOR the 90-minute enduro, before the decision and after. After all, these are Porsches, having a legacy of endurance racing, and co-driving is a way to get to race with a friend or family member, unique and the best thing about an enduro. One hour at Lime Rock or Summit is fine, but an hour at the Glen is like no laps, not even a sprint if you have a co-driver. Very disappointed and hope more people write in to the chair and just say no.

Are sprints actually more popular? Are the reg. numbers declining at the Glen? It would be nice to know what is driving this move.

Originally Posted by TREMPER

For those that want to know the thought behind the possible change of the Sunday schedule at the Clash, call me..
Pete
609.221.3854 EST

Originally Posted by LuigiVampa

Damn shame, I was really looking forward to the Glen this year.

Originally Posted by esscape26

First the message was to make things interesting and exciting, to which the answer was two more sprints. (No, please, no.) And then it was about catering to those who want to leave early. And never mind with the latter, many people get to the Glen early for the prior days and then want to leave early! So they have leave from work prior to the event but can't take leave on Monday or work from home. (I don't buy it.) And then about refueling...

I wrote to the chair FOR the 90-minute enduro, before the decision and after. After all, these are Porsches, having a legacy of endurance racing, and co-driving is a way to get to race with a friend or family member, unique and the best thing about an enduro. One hour at Lime Rock or Summit is fine, but an hour at the Glen is like no laps, not even a sprint if you have a co-driver. Very disappointed and hope more people write in to the chair and just say no.

Are sprints actually more popular? Are the reg. numbers declining at the Glen? It would be nice to know what is driving this move.

Originally Posted by Fumes

same but with no 90 minute enduro, I'm out. It's the best part of race weekend.

Originally Posted by TREMPER

For those that want to know the thought behind the possible change of the Sunday schedule at the Clash, call me..
Pete
609.221.3854 EST

Originally Posted by TREMPER

For those that want to know the thought behind the possible change of the Sunday schedule at the Clash, call me..
Pete
609.221.3854 EST

Originally Posted by bella1

In speaking with Pete, there are some very interesting reasons why this might make sense. I can see both sides for sure. I will say that Pete and his Zone 1 volunteers have always done their best to offer PCA racers a fun and enjoyable event. Thank you Dr. Tremper and glad to see you racing hard!

Originally Posted by serpags

I agree with a comment read earlier about re-thinking the fun starts which are poorly attended and the warm up prior to enduros which are also poorly attended , OR , havethe 90 min before Sunday like HSR and PBOC format.

Originally Posted by Gary R.

The "Fun Starts" are necessary to certify rookie racers as part of their race orientation.

Originally Posted by serpags

I agree with a comment read earlier about re-thinking the fun starts which are poorly attended and the warm up prior to enduros which are also poorly attended , OR , havethe 90 min before Sunday like HSR and PBOC format.